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<blockquote data-quote="regolith" data-source="post: 1616523" data-attributes="member: 9267"><p>I only have allflex taggers, so that it what I use. We also have Leader and Zeetag brands available.</p><p></p><p>The spring on my brand-new green taggers was pretty loose which was why it wouldn't go through the tougher adult ears, it's designed for the pin to flip out and release the tag once the tag is through, it was springing back under pressure when the tag had already scratched or got half through the ear. I had to finish the job with a borrowed green taggers. We have to tag them young anyway by law but really the best option is a few days old, in full daylight and with the calf's head firmly controlled - seriously calving time is busy enough if you're rushing and doing it in the half-dark with the calf just lying resting there's a good chance of hitting the vein and making the ear flop or predisposing an infection. If I let a calf out to the paddock with a cow and try to catch him six weeks later to tag... might find I simply don't have the strength to hang on to him I've resorted to tagging those ones when the entire group is dehorned, our vets preference is to sedate to dehorn.</p><p>You need a head bail. If I have to replace a tag on a dairy animal I do it in the milking shed, have done bulls that way as well you really need luck on your side and a placid calm animal to get it done with the head unrestrained. The law came in with an 'impractical to tag' provision but they keep making the law tighter, apparently now you need official certification that a particular animal is too dangerous to tag and they can only leave the farm direct to slaughter (what actually happens is a lot more realistic but being sensible is going to end up with people being prosecuted and fined the way things are going).</p><p></p><p></p><p>The whole registration thing is still a nightmare six - eight years after it became law, I'm not finding it possible to meet the requirements perhaps because of my poor internet connection, perhaps because of technological problems on the part of government/tag supplier/information provider. The tags I'm using don't have the EID number written on them so the *only* way (unless you own a scanner) to get that number registered to that animal is to obtain a computer file from the tag supplier and upload it, for the last three consecutive years I've had problems obtaining and uploading that file in a timely manner. This year the files I obtained were blank, after several failed attempts to put the information into the system I had to contact the people I'd bought the tags through and get them to track down working files related to that tag purchase. </p><p>I don't know how they can expect the system to work when rural NZ still doesn't have realistic internet speeds and the average farmer is over 60 and often has minimal computer skills to start with. Phoning in information used to be an option but last I heard it's almost impossible to get through in the phone and can take weeks for a response if you ask for a callback.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="regolith, post: 1616523, member: 9267"] I only have allflex taggers, so that it what I use. We also have Leader and Zeetag brands available. The spring on my brand-new green taggers was pretty loose which was why it wouldn't go through the tougher adult ears, it's designed for the pin to flip out and release the tag once the tag is through, it was springing back under pressure when the tag had already scratched or got half through the ear. I had to finish the job with a borrowed green taggers. We have to tag them young anyway by law but really the best option is a few days old, in full daylight and with the calf's head firmly controlled - seriously calving time is busy enough if you're rushing and doing it in the half-dark with the calf just lying resting there's a good chance of hitting the vein and making the ear flop or predisposing an infection. If I let a calf out to the paddock with a cow and try to catch him six weeks later to tag... might find I simply don't have the strength to hang on to him I've resorted to tagging those ones when the entire group is dehorned, our vets preference is to sedate to dehorn. You need a head bail. If I have to replace a tag on a dairy animal I do it in the milking shed, have done bulls that way as well you really need luck on your side and a placid calm animal to get it done with the head unrestrained. The law came in with an 'impractical to tag' provision but they keep making the law tighter, apparently now you need official certification that a particular animal is too dangerous to tag and they can only leave the farm direct to slaughter (what actually happens is a lot more realistic but being sensible is going to end up with people being prosecuted and fined the way things are going). The whole registration thing is still a nightmare six - eight years after it became law, I'm not finding it possible to meet the requirements perhaps because of my poor internet connection, perhaps because of technological problems on the part of government/tag supplier/information provider. The tags I'm using don't have the EID number written on them so the *only* way (unless you own a scanner) to get that number registered to that animal is to obtain a computer file from the tag supplier and upload it, for the last three consecutive years I've had problems obtaining and uploading that file in a timely manner. This year the files I obtained were blank, after several failed attempts to put the information into the system I had to contact the people I'd bought the tags through and get them to track down working files related to that tag purchase. I don't know how they can expect the system to work when rural NZ still doesn't have realistic internet speeds and the average farmer is over 60 and often has minimal computer skills to start with. Phoning in information used to be an option but last I heard it's almost impossible to get through in the phone and can take weeks for a response if you ask for a callback. [/QUOTE]
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