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<blockquote data-quote="hillsdown" data-source="post: 1233415" data-attributes="member: 5106"><p>I report mine honestly and I know the majority of the GV breeders do as well. I will say though that most breeders who do select wisely in regards to type and epd's do not have a lot of train wrecks but accidents do happen so they will occasionally occur no matter how experienced a producer you are. I had my very first c-section in a beefer this year, even though her pelvic measurement was right on track last fall. She was bred to a calving ease bull of +16 and came from a family with large pelvic scores. At 3:45 am when we were done in -20C weather our conversation ended with what Dr. Paul's genetics teacher told his 4 year vet class ( I am summarizing). "This is all scientific but in the end when dealing with living creatures and genetics it can just be a crap shoot at knowing what you will get." </p><p></p><p>What benefit would it be to lie about your herds epd's as far as calving ease and birth weight if you are establishing and maintaining an honest reputation as a reliable breeder.</p><p></p><p>If you sell bulls and heifers that you have "fudged" the books on you will get caught. One time may be an accident, but multiple hard pulls or a train wreck will happen eventually, and you will be held accountable by the breed association and the members as well as al of your commercial clients.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hillsdown, post: 1233415, member: 5106"] I report mine honestly and I know the majority of the GV breeders do as well. I will say though that most breeders who do select wisely in regards to type and epd's do not have a lot of train wrecks but accidents do happen so they will occasionally occur no matter how experienced a producer you are. I had my very first c-section in a beefer this year, even though her pelvic measurement was right on track last fall. She was bred to a calving ease bull of +16 and came from a family with large pelvic scores. At 3:45 am when we were done in -20C weather our conversation ended with what Dr. Paul's genetics teacher told his 4 year vet class ( I am summarizing). "This is all scientific but in the end when dealing with living creatures and genetics it can just be a crap shoot at knowing what you will get." What benefit would it be to lie about your herds epd's as far as calving ease and birth weight if you are establishing and maintaining an honest reputation as a reliable breeder. If you sell bulls and heifers that you have "fudged" the books on you will get caught. One time may be an accident, but multiple hard pulls or a train wreck will happen eventually, and you will be held accountable by the breed association and the members as well as al of your commercial clients. [/QUOTE]
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