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I am new to this site and had a question about apple cider vinegar. I was told a month before I take my steer off to slaughter to mix apple cider vinegar in his feed and it will make the beef more tender. Has anyone ever heard of this before?
 
[email protected]":1tvxz90j said:
I am new to this site and had a question about apple cider vinegar. I was told a month before I take my steer off to slaughter to mix apple cider vinegar in his feed and it will make the beef more tender. Has anyone ever heard of this before?

I've not ever heard that one, but if you poured it on my feed, I'd definitely be leaner.
 
I don't know how tender i am but i put 4 table spoons of apple cider vinegar or red wine vinegar in a cup with water and drink it every day. Its good for you, puts a little bounce in your step.
 
Don't know if it will make the meat tender but some use it as a wormer for cattle. Mix it in a water tank and take away any other water source for 24 hours.
 
Farmgirl":2i2prmq2 said:
Don't know if it will make the meat tender but some use it as a wormer for cattle. Mix it in a water tank and take away any other water source for 24 hours.

I've heard of that too. Can't find enough scientific data to support it and what there was suggested it was really weak. I have thought about trying it though in addition to my regular worming program.
 
Shaz,

I haven't been able to find much info on it either. I was told 1 ounce per gallon of water. If you google Gene Sollock you can find some info on it. He uses it.

Good luck,
Farmgirl
 
we use it in our cattle drinking water. if fed prior to calving we have less problems with retained afterbirth. vinegar put on the meat will tenderize it.
 
Just going by what a friend down the road told me. His grandfather used to be the head cook at the Kings Ranch, of course that was many years ago. But anyway, his granfather said that is what they would do with one before they butchered it, so thought I would give it a try.
 
Farmgirl":2l4vp4jt said:
Shaz,

I haven't been able to find much info on it either. I was told 1 ounce per gallon of water. If you google Gene Sollock you can find some info on it. He uses it.

Good luck,
Farmgirl


That would be a pretty good dose considering old bossy will drink 30-40 gallons of water a day. It ought to do something.
 
TexasBred":397tns53 said:
Farmgirl":397tns53 said:
Shaz,

I haven't been able to find much info on it either. I was told 1 ounce per gallon of water. If you google Gene Sollock you can find some info on it. He uses it.

Good luck,
Farmgirl


That would be a pretty good dose considering old bossy will drink 30-40 gallons of water a day. It ought to do something.

I think so too but I would still want to use an real injectable wormer once a year.
 
[email protected]":rn44on7q said:
I am new to this site and had a question about apple cider vinegar. I was told a month before I take my steer off to slaughter to mix apple cider vinegar in his feed and it will make the beef more tender. Has anyone ever heard of this before?



technically, apple cider vinegar is a sauce, and according to various forum "experts", sauces should never be used in conjunction with beef :roll:
 
SirLoin":27it6pbf said:
[email protected]":27it6pbf said:
I am new to this site and had a question about apple cider vinegar. I was told a month before I take my steer off to slaughter to mix apple cider vinegar in his feed and it will make the beef more tender. Has anyone ever heard of this before?



technically, apple cider vinegar is a sauce, and according to various forum "experts", sauces should never be used in conjunction with beef :roll:

Works well on a horses ass tho sauceman. :nod:
 
TexasBred":2dqc4o0j said:
SirLoin":2dqc4o0j said:
[email protected]":2dqc4o0j said:
I am new to this site and had a question about apple cider vinegar. I was told a month before I take my steer off to slaughter to mix apple cider vinegar in his feed and it will make the beef more tender. Has anyone ever heard of this before?



technically, apple cider vinegar is a sauce, and according to various forum "experts", sauces should never be used in conjunction with beef :roll:

Works well on a horses ass tho sauceman. :nod:

ROLMAO :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
"I read a book written by a vet/M.D. in Vermont that was all about the benefits of vinegar. By his conclusions, the body, man or beast, is basically full of calcium, but, due to alkaline blood, the calcium comes out of solution and starts to form deposits around the body. Vinegar supposedly keeps the calcium in solution, thereby making it immediately available to the needs of the body. This doctor did extensive research with men and women, as well as cattle, especially dairy. His research concluded that milking cows, given a quarter cup or so of apple cider vinegar per feeding, had zero occurance of milk fever, zero occurance of mastitis, greater milk production, healthier calves with greater birth weights and faster rates of gain, often by as much as 30% in six to eight months. He also found that mastits could be treated with vinegar in the ration, the clincher being that the animals he tested with recouperated 100% with no long term negative effects for having contracted mastitis in the first place. Mastitis can ruin a bag. His findings were the same, if I recall correctly, with milk fever. Complete recovery with nothing more than apple cider vinegar in the ration."
This is an excerpt of a post from Homesteading Today. The book is Folk Medicine A Vermont Doctor's Guide to Good Health. My wife prescribes to this practice daily. I am going to start giving my cows ACV in their ration...
 
Pure BS on all counts - tenderizer, wormer, etc. But it won't hurt anything if you decide to try it, especially at the dilute level that's been mentioned.
Any 'health benefits' are strictly in the minds of those taking it, and since your calf won't know that you're giving it, he won't perceive any benefit.

Acetic acid(vinegaris an aqueous solution of acetic acid) is one of the volatile fatty acids(along with propionic, butyric, etc.) that cattle can potentially produce (well, actually, it's the rumen microbes that do it) from the feed they consume, and can utilize as an energy source.
 
SirLoin":2e3vsglr said:
[email protected]":2e3vsglr said:
I am new to this site and had a question about apple cider vinegar. I was told a month before I take my steer off to slaughter to mix apple cider vinegar in his feed and it will make the beef more tender. Has anyone ever heard of this before?



technically, apple cider vinegar is a sauce, and according to various forum "experts", sauces should never be used in conjunction with beef :roll:

Technically would you please post a link to your research that lists apple cider vinegar as a sauce. I can't find any info that shows that to be true.
 
4KFarm":qbdqapnh said:
"I read a book written by a vet/M.D. in Vermont that was all about the benefits of vinegar. By his conclusions, the body, man or beast, is basically full of calcium, but, due to alkaline blood, the calcium comes out of solution and starts to form deposits around the body. Vinegar supposedly keeps the calcium in solution, thereby making it immediately available to the needs of the body. This doctor did extensive research with men and women, as well as cattle, especially dairy. His research concluded that milking cows, given a quarter cup or so of apple cider vinegar per feeding, had zero occurance of milk fever, zero occurance of mastitis, greater milk production, healthier calves with greater birth weights and faster rates of gain, often by as much as 30% in six to eight months. He also found that mastits could be treated with vinegar in the ration, the clincher being that the animals he tested with recouperated 100% with no long term negative effects for having contracted mastitis in the first place. Mastitis can ruin a bag. His findings were the same, if I recall correctly, with milk fever. Complete recovery with nothing more than apple cider vinegar in the ration."
This is an excerpt of a post from Homesteading Today. The book is Folk Medicine A Vermont Doctor's Guide to Good Health. My wife prescribes to this practice daily. I am going to start giving my cows ACV in their ration...
If only 5% of this were true every dairy in the world would be beating his door down and we couldn't produce enough vinegar to meet demand. I've met a few of these herbal/homopathic doctors. Most are loons. One killed a few sheep feeding them copper to get rid of worms.
 
Mammalian systems are designed to operate over a very narrow pH range. Normal blood/tissue pH is 7.4; since 7.0 is considered neutral, I guess you could say that yes, blood is 'alkaline' - but all the enzyme systems and electrolyte balances - including calcium - are designed to function optimally at pH 7.4, and there are multiple intricate buffering systems which serve to keep that normal pH from swinging up or down.

A quarter-cup(2 oz.) of apple cider vinegar(5% acetic acid) given to a cow, will have absolutely no effect whatsoever - any acid will quickly be neutralized by the buffering action of bicarbonate which is naturally present in the cow's(and human) saliva.

This guy's claims of 30% increase in rate of gain and elimination of mastitis are pure and unadulterated BULLSH!T!!! I'm guessing they could also run faster and jump higher?!?
He's preying on gullible goobs, or didn't really pay much attention in his chemistry and physiology courses.
Again, a little bit of vinegar won't hurt you - but the outlandish claims are not to be believed.
 

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