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<blockquote data-quote="4CTophand" data-source="post: 613162" data-attributes="member: 9140"><p><strong>Yes with a statement like this I can tell you have NO CLUE what an EPD is. </strong></p><p><strong>Let me explain this in laymen terms so you can get it</strong></p><p><strong>Simmental assoc has 2 Indices along with their individual EPD's</strong></p><p><strong>The first Index is called API (All purpose Index) and this index takes all the traits of SImms good or bad and put them into an API</strong></p><p><strong>This was done to make it more user friendly for the guy like you that doesn't understand the EPD in general-- so all you have to do is look up Two (2) Indices one of which is API and one is TI</strong></p><p><strong>API is used when you want to keep , for example, heifers in your program TI is also important but in a lesser degree</strong></p><p><strong>TI which is known as the Total Index is an index that relates to other factors when using Simm genetics as a Terminal Sire</strong></p><p><strong>now lets look at 2 bulls -- We will use and industry favorite Flek Autobahn</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>SSS-SCF Autobahn 020G</strong></p><p><strong>Reg # 1970726</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>SPRING 2008 NATIONAL SIMMENTAL SIRE SUMMARY</strong></p><p><strong>TRAIT: CE BW WW YW MCE MM MWW CW YG Marb Fat REA API TI</strong></p><p><strong>EPD: +7.2 +0.4 +33.5 +69.7 +11.7 +5.8 +22.5 +12.9 +.01 +.13 +.00 +.29 106 64</strong></p><p><strong>Acc: .66 .87 .84 .83 .56 .76 .76 .63 .63 .64 .62 .61</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>What do we see here? Good CED but acc is only 0.66, BW OK, WW not great, YW not great, MCE excellenet, MM good, etc.... </strong></p><p><strong>API- 106 Simm average 92 (wouldnt use him for retaining heifers because his API is low)</strong></p><p><strong>TI - 64 Simm average 62 (definately wouldnt use him for a terminal sire)</strong></p><p><strong>Popular Flek bull his CED is the best of any Flek, which is good but his WW and YW is fair,Stay no data YG fair, fat is 0.00 and marb is very low</strong></p><p><strong>This information is available from Select Sires and ASA</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Now lets look at a PB Simm</strong></p><p><strong>Dikemans Sure Bet</strong></p><p><strong>DIKEMANS SURE BET Tattoo: 36R </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p> <strong>Single Birth PB SM Bull DNA: PCB </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong> CE Brth Wean Year MCE Milk MWW Stay CW YG Marb BF REA Shr API TI </strong></p><p><strong>EPD 16.4 -2.8 44.5 76.3 7.0 -1.9 20.4 23.3 5.7 -0.05 0.38 0.04 0.54 -0.14 149.9 80.6 </strong></p><p><strong>ACC 0.34 0.77 0.72 0.69 0.18 0.28 0.29 0.15 0.52 0.52 0.36 0.46 0.33 0.07</strong></p><p><strong> </strong></p><p><strong>let's look at this one> CE excellent bw excellent, WW good, YW excellent, MCE good, Milk low, Stay excellent etc.....</strong></p><p><strong>API - 150 Simm avg 92 Outstanding</strong></p><p><strong>TI - 81 Simm avg 62 Outstanding </strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>Now with your infinite wisdom which Bull would you choose?????</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="4CTophand, post: 613162, member: 9140"] [b]Yes with a statement like this I can tell you have NO CLUE what an EPD is. Let me explain this in laymen terms so you can get it Simmental assoc has 2 Indices along with their individual EPD's The first Index is called API (All purpose Index) and this index takes all the traits of SImms good or bad and put them into an API This was done to make it more user friendly for the guy like you that doesn't understand the EPD in general-- so all you have to do is look up Two (2) Indices one of which is API and one is TI API is used when you want to keep , for example, heifers in your program TI is also important but in a lesser degree TI which is known as the Total Index is an index that relates to other factors when using Simm genetics as a Terminal Sire now lets look at 2 bulls -- We will use and industry favorite Flek Autobahn SSS-SCF Autobahn 020G Reg # 1970726 SPRING 2008 NATIONAL SIMMENTAL SIRE SUMMARY TRAIT: CE BW WW YW MCE MM MWW CW YG Marb Fat REA API TI EPD: +7.2 +0.4 +33.5 +69.7 +11.7 +5.8 +22.5 +12.9 +.01 +.13 +.00 +.29 106 64 Acc: .66 .87 .84 .83 .56 .76 .76 .63 .63 .64 .62 .61 What do we see here? Good CED but acc is only 0.66, BW OK, WW not great, YW not great, MCE excellenet, MM good, etc.... API- 106 Simm average 92 (wouldnt use him for retaining heifers because his API is low) TI - 64 Simm average 62 (definately wouldnt use him for a terminal sire) Popular Flek bull his CED is the best of any Flek, which is good but his WW and YW is fair,Stay no data YG fair, fat is 0.00 and marb is very low This information is available from Select Sires and ASA Now lets look at a PB Simm Dikemans Sure Bet DIKEMANS SURE BET Tattoo: 36R Single Birth PB SM Bull DNA: PCB CE Brth Wean Year MCE Milk MWW Stay CW YG Marb BF REA Shr API TI EPD 16.4 -2.8 44.5 76.3 7.0 -1.9 20.4 23.3 5.7 -0.05 0.38 0.04 0.54 -0.14 149.9 80.6 ACC 0.34 0.77 0.72 0.69 0.18 0.28 0.29 0.15 0.52 0.52 0.36 0.46 0.33 0.07 let's look at this one> CE excellent bw excellent, WW good, YW excellent, MCE good, Milk low, Stay excellent etc..... API - 150 Simm avg 92 Outstanding TI - 81 Simm avg 62 Outstanding Now with your infinite wisdom which Bull would you choose????? [/b] [/QUOTE]
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