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<blockquote data-quote="4CTophand" data-source="post: 613129" data-attributes="member: 9140"><p>"Like most Continental breeds they have value in a crossbreeding system here in the US. They still excel in the environment and husbandry practices they were developed for over hundreds of years (not in the US). In a well-designed crossbreeding system, the boys I saw shouldn't result in hard calvings and would correct the poor-doing narrow chested sucked up funnel butts that so many cry and whine about on this board".</p><p></p><p>"P.S. Bold Future</p><p><a href="http://herdbook.simmental.org/simmapp/s" target="_blank">http://herdbook.simmental.org/simmapp/s</a> ... br=<strong>1205585</strong>"</p><p></p><p>P.S. Good post up to the time you wanted to pass Bold Future as a Full Blood Simmental when he <strong>is a PB Simmental Bull</strong></p><p><strong>ASA Nbr:1205585 </strong>BOLD FUTURE Tattoo: W30_ </p><p></p><p> Single Birth PB SM Bull DNA: PCB </p><p></p><p>Owner 185454 Birth Date 02/13/1987 </p><p>Breeder 012866 Original Issue: 1988-02-19 </p><p></p><p> CE Brth Wean Year MCE Milk MWW Stay CW YG Marb BF REA Shr API TI </p><p>EPD 7.1 1.6 35.1 64.0 6.0 14.7 32.3 18.0 1.7 -0.08 0.02 0.02 0.42 0.62 96.2 61.1 </p><p>ACC 0.91 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.92 0.95 0.95 0.91 0.61 0.61 0.86 0.86 0.86 0.40 </p><p></p><p><strong>Now, his Sire Bold Leader is a FB Simmental Bull--let's look at his numbers:</strong></p><p></p><p>ASA Nbr:0901763 BOLD RULER Tattoo: 393R_ </p><p></p><p> Fresh Embryo FB SM Bull DNA: PCB </p><p></p><p>Owner 000110 Birth Date 02/27/1983 </p><p>Breeder 001622 Original Issue: 1984-03-16 </p><p></p><p> CE Brth Wean Year MCE Milk MWW Stay CW YG Marb BF REA Shr API TI </p><p>EPD 0.9 2.7 32.4 57.1 -0.5 9.6 25.8 11.1 1.7 0.01 0.02 -0.01 -0.08 0.33 70.2 55.6 </p><p>ACC 0.67 0.85 0.85 0.85 0.71 0.80 0.80 0.71 0.59 0.59 0.55 0.53 0.56 0.09 </p><p></p><p><strong>Now let's compare since this was your choice:</strong></p><p></p><p>CE <strong>PB WINS</strong></p><p>BRTH <strong>PB WINS</strong></p><p>WW <strong>PB WINS</strong></p><p>YW <strong>PB WINS</strong></p><p>MCE <strong>PB WINS</strong></p><p>MILK <strong>PB WINS</strong></p><p>MWW <strong>PB WINS</strong></p><p>STAY <strong>PB WINS</strong></p><p>CW <strong>PB WINS BECAUSE ACCURACY IS HIGHER</strong></p><p>YG <strong>PB WINS</strong></p><p>MARB <strong>PB WINS</strong></p><p>BF <strong>PB WINS</strong></p><p>REA <strong>PB WINS</strong></p><p>SHR <strong>FB WINS</strong></p><p>API <strong>PB WINS</strong></p><p>TI <strong>PB WINS</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Thanks for helping me prove my point and your post was good and it is good information even though you were incorrect about Bold Future being a FB. Bold Future was great in his day, but that day has come and gone. Now go back and compare these two bulls to </strong></p><p><strong>Poderosa Rey in my earlier example--- Poderosa Rey is a little known PB sire and you can find him at Bovine Elite or ASA. His numbers are much better than either one of these.</strong></p><p>T</p><p><a href="http://herdbook.simmental.org/simmapp/s" target="_blank">http://herdbook.simmental.org/simmapp/s</a> ...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="4CTophand, post: 613129, member: 9140"] "Like most Continental breeds they have value in a crossbreeding system here in the US. They still excel in the environment and husbandry practices they were developed for over hundreds of years (not in the US). In a well-designed crossbreeding system, the boys I saw shouldn't result in hard calvings and would correct the poor-doing narrow chested sucked up funnel butts that so many cry and whine about on this board". "P.S. Bold Future [url=http://herdbook.simmental.org/simmapp/s]http://herdbook.simmental.org/simmapp/s[/url] ... br=[b]1205585[/b]" P.S. Good post up to the time you wanted to pass Bold Future as a Full Blood Simmental when he [b]is a PB Simmental Bull[/b] [b]ASA Nbr:1205585 [/b]BOLD FUTURE Tattoo: W30_ Single Birth PB SM Bull DNA: PCB Owner 185454 Birth Date 02/13/1987 Breeder 012866 Original Issue: 1988-02-19 CE Brth Wean Year MCE Milk MWW Stay CW YG Marb BF REA Shr API TI EPD 7.1 1.6 35.1 64.0 6.0 14.7 32.3 18.0 1.7 -0.08 0.02 0.02 0.42 0.62 96.2 61.1 ACC 0.91 0.96 0.96 0.96 0.92 0.95 0.95 0.91 0.61 0.61 0.86 0.86 0.86 0.40 [b]Now, his Sire Bold Leader is a FB Simmental Bull--let's look at his numbers:[/b] ASA Nbr:0901763 BOLD RULER Tattoo: 393R_ Fresh Embryo FB SM Bull DNA: PCB Owner 000110 Birth Date 02/27/1983 Breeder 001622 Original Issue: 1984-03-16 CE Brth Wean Year MCE Milk MWW Stay CW YG Marb BF REA Shr API TI EPD 0.9 2.7 32.4 57.1 -0.5 9.6 25.8 11.1 1.7 0.01 0.02 -0.01 -0.08 0.33 70.2 55.6 ACC 0.67 0.85 0.85 0.85 0.71 0.80 0.80 0.71 0.59 0.59 0.55 0.53 0.56 0.09 [b]Now let's compare since this was your choice:[/b] CE [b]PB WINS[/b] BRTH [b]PB WINS[/b] WW [b]PB WINS[/b] YW [b]PB WINS[/b] MCE [b]PB WINS[/b] MILK [b]PB WINS[/b] MWW [b]PB WINS[/b] STAY [b]PB WINS[/b] CW [b]PB WINS BECAUSE ACCURACY IS HIGHER[/b] YG [b]PB WINS[/b] MARB [b]PB WINS[/b] BF [b]PB WINS[/b] REA [b]PB WINS[/b] SHR [b]FB WINS[/b] API [b]PB WINS[/b] TI [b]PB WINS[/b] [b]Thanks for helping me prove my point and your post was good and it is good information even though you were incorrect about Bold Future being a FB. Bold Future was great in his day, but that day has come and gone. Now go back and compare these two bulls to Poderosa Rey in my earlier example--- Poderosa Rey is a little known PB sire and you can find him at Bovine Elite or ASA. His numbers are much better than either one of these.[/b] T [url=http://herdbook.simmental.org/simmapp/s]http://herdbook.simmental.org/simmapp/s[/url] ... [/QUOTE]
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