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cowgirl Ibara

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I bought a 1 day old calf a few months ago and he died when he was 4 days old. I knew the risk of getting the calf so young since their so vulnerable but the Dairy gave me some Colostrum and I took him home with another calf who was 2 days old (both from the same dairy.) But the 1 day old calf was really weak and could barely lift up his head. So I gave him some colostrum the first night and he drank about half a bottle. The next day he was up and bouncing around and he ate a bottle and a half. But by the mid afternoon he was extreamly weak and depressed again and refused to eat or drink. So I gave him some probios, PowerAid, and LA200. His manure was a really runny and mustard color. He had no blood in his stool. The next morning he had passed away. So are there any suggestions or opinions on what may have happend? I thought it might have been coccidiosis but then I wasnt sure. Thanks
 
Well the 2 day old did just fine and went on to do really well. Didnt have any problems with him. But the 1 day old he was born early in the morning and no one was present for the birth-if that would cause any complications.
 
cowgirl Ibara":5j3tf4j5 said:
What would have caused the mustarde colored manure?
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Maybe the lack of colostrum...maybe a virus...maybe the possible dehydration...maybe a bacteria...and, maybe nothing. Sometimes baby calves just don't make it. :(

Alice
 
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I dont know if you did this or not, but im throwing it out there just to be sure. If you have a dehydrated calf that refuses to drink you need to tube them and force rehydration.
 
3MR":39b1jr3k said:
I dont know if you did this or not, but im throwing it out there just to be sure. If you have a dehydrated calf that refuses to drink you need to tube them and force rehydration.
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Yea I got some resorb and electrolytes then drenched him with a bottle of it.
 
AngusLimoX":a17xnmpk said:
Why are they taking them off the cows so soon? They can't use first milk anyways?

4 - 5 days is usual around here.

Don't save that colostrum - heave it.

ALX
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They take the babies of the mothers so early because the little calves can get rough and head but their udders causing it to be bruised, then puts the dairy back because they can't use bloody milk.
 
cowgirl Ibara":3d4nzh1x said:
3MR":3d4nzh1x said:
Its probably a replacement operation not a dairy.
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They are a functioning Dairy but they sale their bull calves and keep their heifers.
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No they were selling their heifer to different farms, and FFA or 4h kids who wanted to do replacement heifers. ( I think you didnt hear him when he said it)
 
cowgirl Ibara":1jtfgyk5 said:
Are you sure? I was pretty sure he said he wasnt selling that batch.
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He either sold them to another dairy, or was sending them to another dairy for them to be raised and bred and brought back to his dairy
 
Such is the life of the Dairy Industry: Calves, especially bull calves are "disposable" products. Buyer beware. They sell milk, not in "beef" business.

What seems to amaze me is if the dairy people have no use for the calves, WHY do they let the cows get bred? I know..."replacement females" = more future milk, etc. "Keep the females, kill the males...lol".

IMO...any calf purchase younger than "normal weaning" (aka ~205 days) is a problem, medical problem, effort problem waiting to happen.

People should not have to PAY for baby dairy calves UNTIL they manage to stay alive and thrive on their own. THEN, any buyer's medical expense should be DEDUCTED from the purchase price.

Just totally unfair (what's new in life) that purchasers of baby dairy calves get stuck with so many health, feeding problems.
 
cowgirl Ibara":hdy1y9nd said:
I bought a 1 day old calf a few months ago and he died when he was 4 days old. I knew the risk of getting the calf so young since their so vulnerable but the Dairy gave me some Colostrum and I took him home with another calf who was 2 days old (both from the same dairy.) But the 1 day old calf was really weak and could barely lift up his head. So I gave him some colostrum the first night and he drank about half a bottle. The next day he was up and bouncing around and he ate a bottle and a half. But by the mid afternoon he was extreamly weak and depressed again and refused to eat or drink. So I gave him some probios, PowerAid, and LA200. His manure was a really runny and mustard color. He had no blood in his stool. The next morning he had passed away. So are there any suggestions or opinions on what may have happend? I thought it might have been coccidiosis but then I wasnt sure. Thanks
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My bet it was a combo of things, lack of colustrum, maybe rednose, we give calfguard vaccine within the first 24 hours of birth, nasally, for this. They make colustrum boluses which may have helped this calf, or could be alot of things, like said before some calves are just born with a issue, and not meant to be.

GMN
 
Running Arrow Bill":2dblnfv2 said:
Such is the life of the Dairy Industry: Calves, especially bull calves are "disposable" products. Buyer beware. They sell milk, not in "beef" business.

What seems to amaze me is if the dairy people have no use for the calves, WHY do they let the cows get bred? I know..."replacement females" = more future milk, etc. "Keep the females, kill the males...lol".

IMO...any calf purchase younger than "normal weaning" (aka ~205 days) is a problem, medical problem, effort problem waiting to happen.

People should not have to PAY for baby dairy calves UNTIL they manage to stay alive and thrive on their own. THEN, any buyer's medical expense should be DEDUCTED from the purchase price.

Just totally unfair (what's new in life) that purchasers of baby dairy calves get stuck with so many health, feeding problems.
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Normally I don't buy my calves until they are 10 days old and at a lesser risk then they are when they are only a day or so old. But i found it cheaper to buy a younger calf since the dairies up here charge us for every day the calf stays on the farm. Two years ago I was charged 5 dollars a day that my calf had been at the dairy. He was 13 days old so I was charged an extra 65 dollars on top of the 120 dollars that the calf cost.
 

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