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<blockquote data-quote="Frankie" data-source="post: 736393" data-attributes="member: 13"><p>Of course it means something that man has been breeding cattle for thousands of years. Considering a heifer calves as a two year old, you're talking about twenty generations. That's hardly "overnight." EXT alone has records of 17,000+ daughters' production. His son, Right Time, has records of 7,000+. D H D Traveler 6807 almost 7,000. That data follows their sons or daughters into production to build accuracy of their EPDs.</p><p> </p><p> :roll: </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>First of all, Herefords didn't infuse other genetics in their breed. That's why there are green papered Herefords. Black Herefords are a different "breed" and not recognized by the AHA.</p><p>Second, mistakes are made by even the most careful. But the AAA has always used the best science/information available to identify mistakes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What do you think happens to that trait? It just disapperars? :roll: Most traits aren't controlled by one gene so, while it might show up with one generation of breeding, it takes several generations to get stability. Using your "40 years", that's enough generations to breed big to big and expect to get big.</p></blockquote><p>[/quote]</p><p></p><p>I guess it depends on who you talk to, but I know Brangus breeders who claim their breed is pure Brangus. I will agree with you that many cattlemen tend to look for the "silver bullet" that will magically make us all profitable.</p><p></p><p>I'll attach the link to Dr. Harlan Ritchie's "HISTORICAL REVIEW OF CATTLE TYPE" that clearly shows Angus and Herefords were bigger before they were the smaller critters you talk about.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.msu.edu/~ritchieh/historical/cattletype.html" target="_blank">https://www.msu.edu/~ritchieh/historica ... etype.html</a></p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Frankie, post: 736393, member: 13"] Of course it means something that man has been breeding cattle for thousands of years. Considering a heifer calves as a two year old, you're talking about twenty generations. That's hardly "overnight." EXT alone has records of 17,000+ daughters' production. His son, Right Time, has records of 7,000+. D H D Traveler 6807 almost 7,000. That data follows their sons or daughters into production to build accuracy of their EPDs. :roll: First of all, Herefords didn't infuse other genetics in their breed. That's why there are green papered Herefords. Black Herefords are a different "breed" and not recognized by the AHA. Second, mistakes are made by even the most careful. But the AAA has always used the best science/information available to identify mistakes. What do you think happens to that trait? It just disapperars? :roll: Most traits aren't controlled by one gene so, while it might show up with one generation of breeding, it takes several generations to get stability. Using your "40 years", that's enough generations to breed big to big and expect to get big. [/quote][/quote] I guess it depends on who you talk to, but I know Brangus breeders who claim their breed is pure Brangus. I will agree with you that many cattlemen tend to look for the "silver bullet" that will magically make us all profitable. I'll attach the link to Dr. Harlan Ritchie's "HISTORICAL REVIEW OF CATTLE TYPE" that clearly shows Angus and Herefords were bigger before they were the smaller critters you talk about. [url=https://www.msu.edu/~ritchieh/historical/cattletype.html]https://www.msu.edu/~ritchieh/historica ... etype.html[/url] [/QUOTE]
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