Angus peoples??

[Black and Good]

How is the best way to find out or know if a certain animal is a carrier of AM (curly calf). Does it spell it out on their papers or is there some other way to reserch this. Just trying to educate myself. Thanks B&G :compute:

 

[bse]

If it is a carrier it will say CAC the last C being for carrier if it has been checked free it will say CAF the F being free. if it has not been checked and has anscestors that are carriers it will say at the bottom of papers that this animal has 1 or more anscestors to be known carriers of whatever gene.

 

[robert]

Curly calf or Arthrogryposis Multiplex is AM therefore AMC if a carrier and AMF if free of that defect. CA is what was called fawn calf syndrome and NH is hydrocephalus also referred to as water head. These are the major recognized defects, there are others. You may have to go back several generations to find tested free ancestry from which no further testing is required if free from defects. I should add that animals in the herdbook which are carriers will have carrier scrawled across the online and paper pedigree also animals with untested potential carrier ancestry will have a note at the bottom of the pedigree stating that.

 

[inyati13]

How is the best way to find out or know if a certain animal is a carrier of AM (curly calf). Does it spell it out on their papers or is there some other way to reserch this. Just trying to educate myself. Thanks B&G :compute:

I just went through this. If the angus cow or bull is a potential carrier but the papers do not indicate he is free of CA, AM or Hydrocephalus, then it is easy (and inexpensive) to send a sample to determine the genetic status of the subject animal. You will need hairs from the tail, a whole blood sample or a few drops of blood on a blood card. I used the blood card when I sampled my angus bull. The hair sample may be the easiest to get but I was informed that the hair can degrade quickly due to decay or mold if it is damp or has manure on it. You collect the blood card by pricking the inside of the ear with a syringe needle. When the blood wells up, blot it onto the card. I requested my bull be tested for all three genetic defects since it was a package rate even though my bull is not listed as a potential carrier of Hydrocephalus which means literally from greek/latin etymology, water head. Same way with Contractual Arachnodactyly, means spider fingers as in pterodactyl (wing fingers); Arthrogryposis Multiplex, means joint gyrations. Most useful course you will every take is Etymology. You can break down a word you have never seen before in your life and get some idea of what it means. Here is the website that I sent my sample to. robert put me onto them.

http://www.stockmansresource.com/

 

[Black and Good]

How is the best way to find out or know if a certain animal is a carrier of AM (curly calf). Does it spell it out on their papers or is there some other way to reserch this. Just trying to educate myself. Thanks B&G :compute:

I just went through this. If the angus cow or bull is a potential carrier but the papers do not indicate he is free of CA, AM or Hydrocephalus, then it is easy (and inexpensive) to send a sample to determine the genetic status of the subject animal. You will need hairs from the tail, a whole blood sample or a few drops of blood on a blood card. I used the blood card when I sampled my angus bull. The hair sample may be the easiest to get but I was informed that the hair can degrade quickly due to decay or mold if it is damp or has manure on it. You collect the blood card by pricking the inside of the ear with a syringe needle. When the blood wells up, blot it onto the card. I requested my bull be tested for all three genetic defects since it was a package rate even though my bull is not listed as a potential carrier of Hydrocephalus which means literally from greek/latin etymology, water head. Same way with Contractual Arachnodactyly, means spider fingers as in pterodactyl (wing fingers); Arthrogryposis Multiplex, means joint gyrations. Most useful course you will every take is Etymology. You can break down a word you have never seen before in your life and get some idea of what it means. Here is the website that I sent my sample to. robert put me onto them.

http://www.stockmansresource.com/

I was wondering if you look up a certain animal on there web site can you tell from there?? For example by looking up Precsion 1680 on angus.com can you see he is a curly calf carrier.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

There are 20 bulls on the AAA site with Precision 1680 in the name. Several are carriers. Do you have the exact name or AAA number of the bull you're interested in?

 

[inyati13]

How is the best way to find out or know if a certain animal is a carrier of AM (curly calf). Does it spell it out on their papers or is there some other way to reserch this. Just trying to educate myself. Thanks B&G :compute:

I just went through this. If the angus cow or bull is a potential carrier but the papers do not indicate he is free of CA, AM or Hydrocephalus, then it is easy (and inexpensive) to send a sample to determine the genetic status of the subject animal. You will need hairs from the tail, a whole blood sample or a few drops of blood on a blood card. I used the blood card when I sampled my angus bull. The hair sample may be the easiest to get but I was informed that the hair can degrade quickly due to decay or mold if it is damp or has manure on it. You collect the blood card by pricking the inside of the ear with a syringe needle. When the blood wells up, blot it onto the card. I requested my bull be tested for all three genetic defects since it was a package rate even though my bull is not listed as a potential carrier of Hydrocephalus which means literally from greek/latin etymology, water head. Same way with Contractual Arachnodactyly, means spider fingers as in pterodactyl (wing fingers); Arthrogryposis Multiplex, means joint gyrations. Most useful course you will every take is Etymology. You can break down a word you have never seen before in your life and get some idea of what it means. Here is the website that I sent my sample to. robert put me onto them.

http://www.stockmansresource.com/

I was wondering if you look up a certain animal on there web site can you tell from there?? For example by looking up Precsion 1680 on angus.com can you see he is a curly calf carrier.

Yes. Get his registration number. Then google American Angus Association. Go to the AAA home page. On the left is a box to do a search by registration number. Entry the registration number for Precision 1680 and click enter. The pedigree will come up. If he is a carrier of AM (curly calf), the code for the genetic defect will appear followed by a capital C, i.e., if he is a carrier of AM it will appear as AMC. If he was tested negative, the genetic code will be followed by a F, i.e., AMF. If he has the genetic defect in his ancestory, but has not been tested to determine his status, a statement will appear at the bottom of his family tree that says that one or more of his ancestors was a carrier of AM.

 

[Black and Good]

I was curious bout the bull I A.I.ed my heifers to "G A R High Design" his dam is out of Precsion 1680.

 

[Black and Good]

OK, Now I'm with ya all. I just saw those codes right below the Reg. #. I'm glad I asked. I learned something today. I try and learn something everyday. For a dummy like me thats not hard to do. BTW G A R High Design has AMF NHF which means he's not a carrier. Right? :banana:

 

[inyati13]

OK, Now I'm with ya all. I just saw those codes right below the Reg. #. I'm glad I asked. I learned something today. I try and learn something everyday. For a dummy like me thats not hard to do. BTW G A R High Design has AMF NHF which means he's not a carrier. Right? :banana:

Yes sir.