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<blockquote data-quote="vclavin" data-source="post: 793713" data-attributes="member: 13613"><p>I understand the problem is that there are NOT ENOUGH qualified Angus cattle to fill the CAB needs, therefore the other criteria was put in place. If Angus producers do a better job of improving carcass qualities in their calves, and there are sufficient numbers to cover CAB needs, then there will no longer be a need to include other black hided animals.</p><p>Valerie</p></blockquote><p></p><p>The phenotypic criteria for CAB (51% black hide) is the same as it was when it was created in 1978. There has been no other criteria put in place, nor has anything been "loosened" to allow other breeds in to address supply problems. Remember that back then if a beef animal was black it was almost certainly Angus. There were no black Gelbvieh, Limousin, Simmental, Salers, etc. The program was aimed at Angus. When these breeds realized that a black hide, and not particularly Angus influence, would get them the same premiums that Angus was getting, they started turning black and allowed those black animals to be registered in their breed associations. So the fact that breeds with little Angus influence can now qualify for CAB has nothing to do with anything the Angus people did. </p><p></p><p>The way I see it, you can make the argument that CAB welcomes these other breeds in order to help address the supply problems, but you can't say that the Angus people changed anything to let those other breeds in. The other breeds saw a loophole and took advantage of it.</p><p></p><p>You can also make the argument that the CAB brand is deceptive, but I don't believe that was the intent from the beginning. It's what those other breeds did that has caused the deception, not what the Angus people did.[/quote]</p><p></p><p></p><p> I hadn't realized the rules have been the same throughout the time CAB started, I did however, read at the CAB website how there are just not enough pure Angus to make the grade.....A hint to producers to pay more attention to carcass qualities? Maybe.</p><p>Valerie</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="vclavin, post: 793713, member: 13613"] I understand the problem is that there are NOT ENOUGH qualified Angus cattle to fill the CAB needs, therefore the other criteria was put in place. If Angus producers do a better job of improving carcass qualities in their calves, and there are sufficient numbers to cover CAB needs, then there will no longer be a need to include other black hided animals. Valerie[/quote] The phenotypic criteria for CAB (51% black hide) is the same as it was when it was created in 1978. There has been no other criteria put in place, nor has anything been "loosened" to allow other breeds in to address supply problems. Remember that back then if a beef animal was black it was almost certainly Angus. There were no black Gelbvieh, Limousin, Simmental, Salers, etc. The program was aimed at Angus. When these breeds realized that a black hide, and not particularly Angus influence, would get them the same premiums that Angus was getting, they started turning black and allowed those black animals to be registered in their breed associations. So the fact that breeds with little Angus influence can now qualify for CAB has nothing to do with anything the Angus people did. The way I see it, you can make the argument that CAB welcomes these other breeds in order to help address the supply problems, but you can't say that the Angus people changed anything to let those other breeds in. The other breeds saw a loophole and took advantage of it. You can also make the argument that the CAB brand is deceptive, but I don't believe that was the intent from the beginning. It's what those other breeds did that has caused the deception, not what the Angus people did.[/quote] I hadn't realized the rules have been the same throughout the time CAB started, I did however, read at the CAB website how there are just not enough pure Angus to make the grade.....A hint to producers to pay more attention to carcass qualities? Maybe. Valerie [/QUOTE]
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