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<blockquote data-quote="Brandonm2" data-source="post: 326048" data-attributes="member: 2095"><p>I have never denied that Simmental played a role in Hereford's size increase and it is pretty obvious too me that some lines of Angus have some characteristics one would expect too more commonly find amoung Holsteins. Dr Ritchie (Michigan State) says the same thing publicly and on the record. That is ancient history. Once you add outside genes to a closed pool you can't predict where they will fall. Ten generations after the fact, too assume that a frame 8 Angus has any more or less "taint" than does a frame 4 just because you see the height is not necessarily accurate. Some of these Black, polled, moderate framed, mellow Simmentals LOOK a little more like what my mind says an Angus "looks like" than some of these tall, long, roman nosed, angular, funnell butted, lite muscled, heavy milking, white uddered, 1600 lb registered Angus cows that I see. BUT "Angus" is whatever the breed association says it is. A whole generation of cattlemen have grown up with seeing 1500 lb frame 7 and frame 8 Hereford and Angus cows as common. I think it is past time for us to just accept that IN THIS REALITY, Simmentals can be solid black, polled, easy keeping, and moderate framed; Limousins can be black; Beefmasters!! can be black; Hereford bulls can weigh 3400 lbs, have no white on the neck and a red raccoon mask; and an ANgus purebreeder can have a herd of hard doing 1800-1900 lb moma cows with long roman noses. It is certainly correct too say that there are lines of Angus which will add frame, height, length, and growth to a set of commercial cows.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandonm2, post: 326048, member: 2095"] I have never denied that Simmental played a role in Hereford's size increase and it is pretty obvious too me that some lines of Angus have some characteristics one would expect too more commonly find amoung Holsteins. Dr Ritchie (Michigan State) says the same thing publicly and on the record. That is ancient history. Once you add outside genes to a closed pool you can't predict where they will fall. Ten generations after the fact, too assume that a frame 8 Angus has any more or less "taint" than does a frame 4 just because you see the height is not necessarily accurate. Some of these Black, polled, moderate framed, mellow Simmentals LOOK a little more like what my mind says an Angus "looks like" than some of these tall, long, roman nosed, angular, funnell butted, lite muscled, heavy milking, white uddered, 1600 lb registered Angus cows that I see. BUT "Angus" is whatever the breed association says it is. A whole generation of cattlemen have grown up with seeing 1500 lb frame 7 and frame 8 Hereford and Angus cows as common. I think it is past time for us to just accept that IN THIS REALITY, Simmentals can be solid black, polled, easy keeping, and moderate framed; Limousins can be black; Beefmasters!! can be black; Hereford bulls can weigh 3400 lbs, have no white on the neck and a red raccoon mask; and an ANgus purebreeder can have a herd of hard doing 1800-1900 lb moma cows with long roman noses. It is certainly correct too say that there are lines of Angus which will add frame, height, length, and growth to a set of commercial cows. [/QUOTE]
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