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<blockquote data-quote="Willow Springs" data-source="post: 1564025" data-attributes="member: 9002"><p>I have actually seen the bull in the Flesh. I was in Scotland in 2017? and attended the Dunlouise Angus sale. They breed "Traditional" Angus - no outside pedigrees from other countries. The cattle are certainly smaller and thus easier fleshing in their environment. I did notice quite a bit of variability in size with the cattle I saw, but the type was similar regardless. I think it is tough to find new? old genetics to use in the program as they have been relying on finding old semen and there were very few cows of pure Angus breeding left to start their program.</p><p></p><p>The bull himself had a lot of natural thickness and muscle shape (more than he shows in the pic) regardless of the condition he was carrying. Thought he could've moved a bit cleaner, but probably a function of the muscle he had. Saddle Butte Ranch from Montana bought him and there is semen available world wide on him (bull stayed in UK and was collected there). </p><p></p><p>I have also been to the Ranch in Montana a couple times just to see what the Scottish cattle looked like in more of a working ranch environment. Harrison O'Connor who owns the ranch was heavy into the Wye Angus breeding and then moved into the Pinebank genetics from New Zealand which are both very likely pure UK breeding as well. Now he is converting his entire program over to the Dunlouise program cattle using AI and also bringing in embryos. The cattle seem to work for him.</p><p></p><p>And Silver I have to disagree; I love my Angus cows and wouldn't trade them for any other breed, and I have had experience with plenty of others. I do think the commercial industry needs to a better job of cross breeding to capture vigour and yield though - getting to be too many pure Angus commercial herds.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Willow Springs, post: 1564025, member: 9002"] I have actually seen the bull in the Flesh. I was in Scotland in 2017? and attended the Dunlouise Angus sale. They breed "Traditional" Angus - no outside pedigrees from other countries. The cattle are certainly smaller and thus easier fleshing in their environment. I did notice quite a bit of variability in size with the cattle I saw, but the type was similar regardless. I think it is tough to find new? old genetics to use in the program as they have been relying on finding old semen and there were very few cows of pure Angus breeding left to start their program. The bull himself had a lot of natural thickness and muscle shape (more than he shows in the pic) regardless of the condition he was carrying. Thought he could've moved a bit cleaner, but probably a function of the muscle he had. Saddle Butte Ranch from Montana bought him and there is semen available world wide on him (bull stayed in UK and was collected there). I have also been to the Ranch in Montana a couple times just to see what the Scottish cattle looked like in more of a working ranch environment. Harrison O'Connor who owns the ranch was heavy into the Wye Angus breeding and then moved into the Pinebank genetics from New Zealand which are both very likely pure UK breeding as well. Now he is converting his entire program over to the Dunlouise program cattle using AI and also bringing in embryos. The cattle seem to work for him. And Silver I have to disagree; I love my Angus cows and wouldn't trade them for any other breed, and I have had experience with plenty of others. I do think the commercial industry needs to a better job of cross breeding to capture vigour and yield though - getting to be too many pure Angus commercial herds. [/QUOTE]
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