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<blockquote data-quote="Ky hills" data-source="post: 1534202" data-attributes="member: 24816"><p>I have had far better results buying Bulls private treaty on the farms than at sales. Bought an Angus bull that was the second high selling bull in the sale from a supposed longtime reputable breeder at a very popular area bull sale. In less than two weeks the bull was dead from hardware disease. He appeared ok at purchase but soon went down hill. The breeder acknowledged that he had also had a heifer with hardware at the same time. He refused compensate in any way. I had to go purchase another bull from another breeder. Have also purchased registered heifers, cows,from production and consignment sales. Have come to the conclusion that many of those cattle are in reality their culls. As they have almost all been culled from my herd in short order.</p><p>When I have sold Angus Bulls, just the few that we have raised, they have been registered, DNA tested for recessive traits and genomic enhanced EPD's. They also have passed a BSE and are in working condition and guaranteed for the first season. Our commercial bred heifers are guaranteed according to the requirements of the sale, and I have went an extra step taking one back and refunding the money based on its disposition. The heifer did not act that way here but something changed between sale time and getting her to her new home. We care about our customers and want to provide cattle that work. I will not knowingly misrepresent anything we sell. Our culling percentage for our bred heifers is usually 20 to 30% from our end before the sale consultant and grader cull from their guidelines to make sure the quality is high in the sale. I sometimes think that those commercial heifers have been screened and culled much closer than at some registered sales.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ky hills, post: 1534202, member: 24816"] I have had far better results buying Bulls private treaty on the farms than at sales. Bought an Angus bull that was the second high selling bull in the sale from a supposed longtime reputable breeder at a very popular area bull sale. In less than two weeks the bull was dead from hardware disease. He appeared ok at purchase but soon went down hill. The breeder acknowledged that he had also had a heifer with hardware at the same time. He refused compensate in any way. I had to go purchase another bull from another breeder. Have also purchased registered heifers, cows,from production and consignment sales. Have come to the conclusion that many of those cattle are in reality their culls. As they have almost all been culled from my herd in short order. When I have sold Angus Bulls, just the few that we have raised, they have been registered, DNA tested for recessive traits and genomic enhanced EPD's. They also have passed a BSE and are in working condition and guaranteed for the first season. Our commercial bred heifers are guaranteed according to the requirements of the sale, and I have went an extra step taking one back and refunding the money based on its disposition. The heifer did not act that way here but something changed between sale time and getting her to her new home. We care about our customers and want to provide cattle that work. I will not knowingly misrepresent anything we sell. Our culling percentage for our bred heifers is usually 20 to 30% from our end before the sale consultant and grader cull from their guidelines to make sure the quality is high in the sale. I sometimes think that those commercial heifers have been screened and culled much closer than at some registered sales. [/QUOTE]
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