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<blockquote data-quote="Ky hills" data-source="post: 1533942" data-attributes="member: 24816"><p>I would venture to say that you are believing the hype and marketing. AI vs live cover is a credible debate, but not always an easy one to prove. </p><p>Small breeders don't cull hard and make excuses: That is a painting with a very broad brush. I will cite my ham and egg outfit as proof that small doesn't mean less culling and excuses. I cull for a wide range of reasons, disposition, lack of fertility, bad structure. Funny how some of those AI sires left bad feet and some left daughters that can't keep up with my requirements of having calves at regular intervals. I have stopped registering calves from one of my cow lines as the feet are not up to par with what I think purebred breeding stock should be. I am a full time small time farmer, and I don't have the luxury of keeping and making excuses for cattle that don't produce. Space is at a premium here and i am not about to take up grazing space by holding on to that once nice looking heifer that didn't get bred, or that good cow that lost a calf.</p><p>It takes a pretty hardy cow despite what some might think to thrive here. We have some rough rocky hills and quite a bit of mud and cold rain with some spells of snow and ice in a typical winter, these cattle are out in it. The summers can be hot and humid, and factor in fescue based pastures, it ain't a cake walk for them. I do feed grain, to everything daily in the winter months, because our hay is almost always very low quality, I don't feed to fatten them but to maintain. In the summer i will feed some to the weaned calves but again not a lot just to maintain and keep them growing good as the pastures can get pretty thin. </p><p>Poor doing cattle are identified pretty easily and culled.</p><p></p><p>True Grit, you state that you don't consider your self a breeder, but I will attempt to show evidence to the contrary that you could consider yourself as such. Whether purebred or commercial, if one sells breeding stock or maybe even just markets commercial calves from their cowherd they can all be breeders and not just multipliers. You no doubt, put thought and effort into selecting your cows and bulls that work in your environment. You likely have criteria that you use when selecting or culling. You have a management system. Whether large or small your cattle that you sell have something to offer at the very least to some of those in your local area. You could probably even take a bull calf from the center to top of your herd and somehow put him in an AI Stud, with promotion and advertising in the catalogs he could very well hold his own in comparison to the big name well known prefix bulls. Let's face it you just might be a cattle breeder and a darn good one after all. :tiphat: :nod:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ky hills, post: 1533942, member: 24816"] I would venture to say that you are believing the hype and marketing. AI vs live cover is a credible debate, but not always an easy one to prove. Small breeders don't cull hard and make excuses: That is a painting with a very broad brush. I will cite my ham and egg outfit as proof that small doesn't mean less culling and excuses. I cull for a wide range of reasons, disposition, lack of fertility, bad structure. Funny how some of those AI sires left bad feet and some left daughters that can't keep up with my requirements of having calves at regular intervals. I have stopped registering calves from one of my cow lines as the feet are not up to par with what I think purebred breeding stock should be. I am a full time small time farmer, and I don't have the luxury of keeping and making excuses for cattle that don't produce. Space is at a premium here and i am not about to take up grazing space by holding on to that once nice looking heifer that didn't get bred, or that good cow that lost a calf. It takes a pretty hardy cow despite what some might think to thrive here. We have some rough rocky hills and quite a bit of mud and cold rain with some spells of snow and ice in a typical winter, these cattle are out in it. The summers can be hot and humid, and factor in fescue based pastures, it ain't a cake walk for them. I do feed grain, to everything daily in the winter months, because our hay is almost always very low quality, I don't feed to fatten them but to maintain. In the summer i will feed some to the weaned calves but again not a lot just to maintain and keep them growing good as the pastures can get pretty thin. Poor doing cattle are identified pretty easily and culled. True Grit, you state that you don't consider your self a breeder, but I will attempt to show evidence to the contrary that you could consider yourself as such. Whether purebred or commercial, if one sells breeding stock or maybe even just markets commercial calves from their cowherd they can all be breeders and not just multipliers. You no doubt, put thought and effort into selecting your cows and bulls that work in your environment. You likely have criteria that you use when selecting or culling. You have a management system. Whether large or small your cattle that you sell have something to offer at the very least to some of those in your local area. You could probably even take a bull calf from the center to top of your herd and somehow put him in an AI Stud, with promotion and advertising in the catalogs he could very well hold his own in comparison to the big name well known prefix bulls. Let's face it you just might be a cattle breeder and a darn good one after all. :tiphat: :nod: [/QUOTE]
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