And You Think They All Get Away With It

[slick4591]

Former Farmers Branch officer to be sentenced for murdering teen

 

[True Grit Farms]

Come on man you didn't take a liberal pill this morning? That cop was off duty, ran up to a car and started shooting, 16 rounds in total. That's a good way to stop someone from breaking into cars. When you run up to someone's car with a gun and start shooting, you have no fear.

 

[slick4591]

He expressed a fear for his life during the investigation and his lawyer played on that during the trial. It didn't work.

 

[True Grit Farms]

He expressed a fear for his life during the investigation and his lawyer played on that during the trial. It didn't work.

That's the first thing your trained to say. "I feared for my life" You have no fear when you approach someone in a car and start firing your weapon. And it doesn't matter if the driver was armed or not. I can't see any reason if you have a gun to approach someone to defend yourself. I'm all for standing your ground and defending yourself, but attacking and then killing someone is murder.

 

[slick4591]

If you cut to the meat and potatoes of this case he chased the guys, and after he wrecked them out he approached with his gun drawn. He stated there was hand movement by the driver, which put him in fear and fired on him. No one bought it, not even the investigators from a neighboring city. Thing is... you can say whatever but that's not an automatic exoneration as some would have people to believe. I posted this to tell that story.

 

[Son of Butch]

Chased down 2 teenagers that had broken into his car....rammed his SUV into their car
jumped out and emptied 16 shots in through the Driver's window.

His attorney argued it was a crime of passion (must of loved that car) trying for reduced sentence because even he
knew a Texas jury was going to find him guilty and that it wasn't a self defense case.
Knowing they were losing the case...
The off duty cop took the stand, a last ditch effort with what the police union taught him to say... I feared for my life.

 

[slick4591]

You must have pulled some of that stuff from the media. They argued the "passion" as part of the penalty phase. Guilt/Not Guilty eluded to self defense. And by the way... In Texas there can be no police unions. Check your sources SoB.

 

[Son of Butch]

The article you posted clearly states in Closing Argument his attorney argued crime of passion and 90 minutes
later jury returned with a guilty verdict.

p.s.
Penalty phrase starts today? and he faces 2 yrs - life.

 

[slick4591]

That article has been added to since this morning. Sentencing phase began yesterday, Monday. I see now the article doesn't articulate that and is not worded correctly. He was found guilty last week.

 

[Son of Butch]

You made me google....
C.L.E.A.T. (Combined Law Enforcement Associations of Texas) is the largest police officers Union in Texas.
The Dallas Police Association formed in 1959 to serve Dallas officers, viewed as a police union by city government.

 

[slick4591]

It is not a union and never has been. I was member in the first month of forming. Organizing a union in Texas is a violation of state statute and carries penalties. Officers in this state may not legally strike.

Of course, the administrations view associations as a union because they are organized and do not allow management to run over them. Most all cities have their associations, but it is optional for an individual to join CLEAT. We also have some cities that are recognized under collective bargaining agreements which were voted on by the respective citizen population.

 

[slick4591]

Just heard that he caught 10 years. Not long enough.

 

[greybeard]

It is not a union and never has been. I was member in the first month of forming. Organizing a union in Texas is a violation of state statute and carries penalties. Officers in this state may not legally strike.

Of course, the administrations view associations as a union because they are organized and do not allow management to run over them. Most all cities have their associations, but it is optional for an individual to join CLEAT. We also have some cities that are recognized under collective bargaining agreements which were voted on by the respective citizen population.

The old saying is........A rose by any other name still smells the same.

 

[slick4591]

Did you even bother to research CLEAT before spitting out that cliché? Here's a link. Don't think you will find where they negotiate working conditions, medical insurance or salaries like a trade union does.

 

[TexasBred]

Did you even bother to research CLEAT before spitting out that cliché? Here's a link. Don't think you will find where they negotiate working conditions, medical insurance or salaries like a trade union does.

You know he didn't. He'd rather be cute than informed.

 

[greybeard]

Did you even bother to research CLEAT before spitting out that cliché? Here's a link. Don't think you will find where they negotiate working conditions, medical insurance or salaries like a trade union does.

As a matter of fact, I did, which is why I made the connection. But, from your own link, "Member's Benefits"....you can see for yourself.
https://www.cleat.org/member-benefits/

As the largest police officers’ union in Texas, the largest legal services provider in the state specializing in representing law enforcement officers, and the largest confederation of local police officers’ associations in Texas, CLEAT is the state’s most powerful advocate for the rights of law enforcement professionals. We provide a broad range of benefits, including:

Walks like a duck.
Quacks like a duck.
Calls itself a duck.
What is it..a unicorn?
Consider yourself informed.

 

[slick4591]

Guess I'll be eating crow today, thank you. This organization really tried hard to stay away from that moniker in the 70's and now I read it all over their page.

 

[TexasBred]

Guess I'll be eating crow today, thank you. This organization really tried hard to stay away from that moniker in the 70's and now I read it all over their page.

Must be truly voluntary as less than 1/3 of police officers are members.

 

[slick4591]

It's very voluntary. No broken legs or anything.

 

[TexasBred]

It's very voluntary. No broken legs or anything.

Looks like this "union" has competition from another "union" and they hate each other.