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<blockquote data-quote="madbeancounter1" data-source="post: 109608" data-attributes="member: 2046"><p>Don't kid yourself about all them living in the stone age. About to years ago there was one family that got "shunned" by the rest of the church. The "shunned" part I know is true the reasons are a little shady. </p><p></p><p>What I heard was that the family had a room in the home that had a pocket door entrance when the door was closed it was designed to look like the rest of the wall. Supposedly they kept the forbidden toys in this room... such as a big screen TV.... Anyway, it is alledged that the Monday Night football game was playing on the big screen when the Bishop paid an unexpected visit. </p><p></p><p>...ebdebdebd that's all folks :lol: :lol: :lol: </p><p></p><p>On a more serious note these two items for sure I know are factual because I worked with members of both of these families.</p><p></p><p>One family, the Melvin Miller's had a daughter, Karen, that had "died' at birth and had been revived. As a result she was brain damaged. She was blind, couldn't speak, and had no control over her bodily functions and needed a respirator to breath. </p><p></p><p>For a while she was kept in a nursing facility but the family wanted her at home. The doctors said there was no guarantee how long she might live; maybe a couple of years, maybe much longer. Anyway the parents appealed to the Bishop for permission to install electricty in ONE bedroom of the home to power the equipment needed to keep her alive. </p><p></p><p>Permission was granted on the condition that in the event that she passed away the electricity would be removed. </p><p></p><p>Having been one of those taxi drivers for Melvin since he lived on my way to work I used to stop and give him a ride every morning and home every evening. Frequently, I was invited in for a piece of pie or a cup of coffee (brewed on the gas stove). </p><p></p><p>Even with the opportunity to abuse the fact that he had electric in the home he never abused it. Karen lived to age 9 and about a month after the funeral the Bishop came out to remind Melvin to remove the electricity and it had already been done. </p><p></p><p>The 2nd example is similar but with a different outcome. The Loren Burkholder family had a 17 year old son (don't remember the boy's name). This son was in the "sowing of wild oats" stage and had gotten himself a car. Long story short... He was out joyriding, drunk and wrapped it around a tree. Today the boy is paralyzed from the neck down and needs a ventilator to breathe.</p><p></p><p>The Burkholder's and the Miller's lived in two entirely seperate districts. When the Burkholder's went to their Bishop to request to install electricity in order to run the ventilator they were denied permission. I don't know what the reason was but the outcome is that if they wanted to take care of their son they had to leave the Amish Church, which they did.</p><p></p><p>Being not to far removed from the Amish folk there are things that I notice about my mom and other relatives that I don't see in people that are not closely related... They aren't big things that a lot of people would notice but they are there nonetheless. A lot of people closely related to the Amish kind of see there being an invisible fence between the two groups and when someone makes a comment or does something that we recognize and being distinctly Amish manytimes the person that says or does whatever caught our attention is described at a "Jerked Over Amishman".</p><p></p><p>Anyway, the reason that I brought that up is that my Dad still works with Loren Burkholder and he told me that Loren still thinks of himself as Amish and instead of being "jerked over" he was "forced to jump."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madbeancounter1, post: 109608, member: 2046"] Don't kid yourself about all them living in the stone age. About to years ago there was one family that got "shunned" by the rest of the church. The "shunned" part I know is true the reasons are a little shady. What I heard was that the family had a room in the home that had a pocket door entrance when the door was closed it was designed to look like the rest of the wall. Supposedly they kept the forbidden toys in this room... such as a big screen TV.... Anyway, it is alledged that the Monday Night football game was playing on the big screen when the Bishop paid an unexpected visit. ...ebdebdebd that's all folks :lol: :lol: :lol: On a more serious note these two items for sure I know are factual because I worked with members of both of these families. One family, the Melvin Miller's had a daughter, Karen, that had "died' at birth and had been revived. As a result she was brain damaged. She was blind, couldn't speak, and had no control over her bodily functions and needed a respirator to breath. For a while she was kept in a nursing facility but the family wanted her at home. The doctors said there was no guarantee how long she might live; maybe a couple of years, maybe much longer. Anyway the parents appealed to the Bishop for permission to install electricty in ONE bedroom of the home to power the equipment needed to keep her alive. Permission was granted on the condition that in the event that she passed away the electricity would be removed. Having been one of those taxi drivers for Melvin since he lived on my way to work I used to stop and give him a ride every morning and home every evening. Frequently, I was invited in for a piece of pie or a cup of coffee (brewed on the gas stove). Even with the opportunity to abuse the fact that he had electric in the home he never abused it. Karen lived to age 9 and about a month after the funeral the Bishop came out to remind Melvin to remove the electricity and it had already been done. The 2nd example is similar but with a different outcome. The Loren Burkholder family had a 17 year old son (don't remember the boy's name). This son was in the "sowing of wild oats" stage and had gotten himself a car. Long story short... He was out joyriding, drunk and wrapped it around a tree. Today the boy is paralyzed from the neck down and needs a ventilator to breathe. The Burkholder's and the Miller's lived in two entirely seperate districts. When the Burkholder's went to their Bishop to request to install electricity in order to run the ventilator they were denied permission. I don't know what the reason was but the outcome is that if they wanted to take care of their son they had to leave the Amish Church, which they did. Being not to far removed from the Amish folk there are things that I notice about my mom and other relatives that I don't see in people that are not closely related... They aren't big things that a lot of people would notice but they are there nonetheless. A lot of people closely related to the Amish kind of see there being an invisible fence between the two groups and when someone makes a comment or does something that we recognize and being distinctly Amish manytimes the person that says or does whatever caught our attention is described at a "Jerked Over Amishman". Anyway, the reason that I brought that up is that my Dad still works with Loren Burkholder and he told me that Loren still thinks of himself as Amish and instead of being "jerked over" he was "forced to jump." [/QUOTE]
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