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<blockquote data-quote="Nesikep" data-source="post: 795962" data-attributes="member: 9096"><p>a few good points are made, and its ridiculous to try and live up to everyone's standards... I think the best point that's made is that this 100% grass fed beef is fed grain and finished on grass... </p><p></p><p>is there any certifying body that doesn't shoot themselves in the foot?</p><p>organic is *USELESS*... we've been certified organic 15 years, and the last 5 years we gave up on it, we do have the certifier come and inspect us, but its pointless since most of our animals go through the sale barn. Also, the organic standards are plummeting so fast even Obama's ratings have trouble keeping up. </p><p>whenever we need antibiotics on a cow, she's removed from the "organic" list.. over the last 2 years none have needed any, but sometimes you can't avoid it</p><p>then you have what could be good, the grassfed program.. but then you see they (allow at least) grain feeding...</p><p></p><p>Humane.. just an appeal to people's egos... the food is not better.. and then who's to define humane? our place may have things left to be desired sometimes... when things warm up everything is muddy for a couple weeks.. what can you do? so they cows are dirty for a bit... but if anyone actually comes around and takes a look, they come running to me.. I do my vaccination without a horse, chute, or squeeze...</p><p>To some people they may think that keeping the cows out when it's -25C with no shelter is cruel.. our cows have a good coat and they don't mind it at all, they don't even need much more food... when it's just above freezing and pouring rain they are much worse off</p><p></p><p>ASH free</p><p>this sounds like organic, except it doesn't matter how many pesticices the food they they are fed was grown with </p><p></p><p>I think it has to come down to all certifications becoming so evidently useless that the consumer has to actually just go out and see for himself how his food is grown and decide for himself what is acceptable. Few people actually care enough about their beliefs to do it, they're too lazy or they don't *actually* care, just want to look like they do to their friends</p><p></p><p>so Jog, it's up to you to tell me if you like my beef... look at the beautiful scenery they get to look at <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /> </p><p>I think I just raise "good" beef... </p><p></p><p>I could say more....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nesikep, post: 795962, member: 9096"] a few good points are made, and its ridiculous to try and live up to everyone's standards... I think the best point that's made is that this 100% grass fed beef is fed grain and finished on grass... is there any certifying body that doesn't shoot themselves in the foot? organic is *USELESS*... we've been certified organic 15 years, and the last 5 years we gave up on it, we do have the certifier come and inspect us, but its pointless since most of our animals go through the sale barn. Also, the organic standards are plummeting so fast even Obama's ratings have trouble keeping up. whenever we need antibiotics on a cow, she's removed from the "organic" list.. over the last 2 years none have needed any, but sometimes you can't avoid it then you have what could be good, the grassfed program.. but then you see they (allow at least) grain feeding... Humane.. just an appeal to people's egos... the food is not better.. and then who's to define humane? our place may have things left to be desired sometimes... when things warm up everything is muddy for a couple weeks.. what can you do? so they cows are dirty for a bit... but if anyone actually comes around and takes a look, they come running to me.. I do my vaccination without a horse, chute, or squeeze... To some people they may think that keeping the cows out when it's -25C with no shelter is cruel.. our cows have a good coat and they don't mind it at all, they don't even need much more food... when it's just above freezing and pouring rain they are much worse off ASH free this sounds like organic, except it doesn't matter how many pesticices the food they they are fed was grown with I think it has to come down to all certifications becoming so evidently useless that the consumer has to actually just go out and see for himself how his food is grown and decide for himself what is acceptable. Few people actually care enough about their beliefs to do it, they're too lazy or they don't *actually* care, just want to look like they do to their friends so Jog, it's up to you to tell me if you like my beef... look at the beautiful scenery they get to look at :P I think I just raise "good" beef... I could say more.... [/QUOTE]
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