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<blockquote data-quote="greybeard" data-source="post: 1337307" data-attributes="member: 18945"><p>I do not one bit begrudge Ali for not wanting to go to Vietnam. One of my own distant ancestors had a very difficult time with going to war and killing a fellow human being, and it took a lot of soul searching before Alvin York finally did agree to go. It is a heavy burden to live with killing other people, to beleive such that you are violating that 13th commandment, and know there will come a day you're going to stand before your maker and know you will have to answer for it in some way or another. The older I get and the closer I get, the more burdensome that thought has become.</p><p></p><p>Interesting, that we are prone to draw a rather unfair distinction between those who are ordered to serve (receive draft notice) but chose not to serve--and those who aren't ordered to and don't serve(draft eligible but number not drawn). </p><p>I did some research, thru a book called <em>The Evolution of the All-Volunteer Force</em> (Bernard Rostker) for The Rand Corporation and came up with the following numbers:</p><p></p><p>There were 26,800,000 men draft-eligible between 1964 and 1973, 2,215,000 were drafted and 8,720,000 enlisted. "Drafted" means they received a draft notice to report. "Draft Eligible" means they were of age, had registered for the draft and had not applied for any exemption. Actually drafted and served (1965 - 73) in all capacities, in and out 'of country' : 1,728,344.</p><p>So, during this 'era';</p><p>2,215,000 (received their notices.)</p><p><u>+8,720,000</u> (enlisted.)</p><p>equals=10,935,000 either enlisted or received a draft notice, iow, they served in the military during that era----out of 26,800,000 draft eligible men. </p><p>That means that 15,865,000 draft eligible, red blooded American men <u>neither</u> enlisted nor received a draft notice. </p><p>Nearly 16 million military aged American males 'chose' not to serve for a variety of reasons, mostly (from personal observations) because they already had good jobs, didn't want to leave girlfriends, didn't want to be away from mother/father/siblings, or just didn't relish the idea of being shot at.</p><p>Who am I, a USMC Vietnam combat veteran, to judge one person for not serving for his stated reasons, while 16 million others made the same choice for any number of reasons?</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/monographs/2007/RAND_MG265.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pu ... _MG265.pdf</a></p><p>Relative text begins on pg 27.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="greybeard, post: 1337307, member: 18945"] I do not one bit begrudge Ali for not wanting to go to Vietnam. One of my own distant ancestors had a very difficult time with going to war and killing a fellow human being, and it took a lot of soul searching before Alvin York finally did agree to go. It is a heavy burden to live with killing other people, to beleive such that you are violating that 13th commandment, and know there will come a day you're going to stand before your maker and know you will have to answer for it in some way or another. The older I get and the closer I get, the more burdensome that thought has become. Interesting, that we are prone to draw a rather unfair distinction between those who are ordered to serve (receive draft notice) but chose not to serve--and those who aren't ordered to and don't serve(draft eligible but number not drawn). I did some research, thru a book called [i]The Evolution of the All-Volunteer Force[/i] (Bernard Rostker) for The Rand Corporation and came up with the following numbers: There were 26,800,000 men draft-eligible between 1964 and 1973, 2,215,000 were drafted and 8,720,000 enlisted. "Drafted" means they received a draft notice to report. "Draft Eligible" means they were of age, had registered for the draft and had not applied for any exemption. Actually drafted and served (1965 - 73) in all capacities, in and out 'of country' : 1,728,344. So, during this 'era'; 2,215,000 (received their notices.) [u]+8,720,000[/u] (enlisted.) equals=10,935,000 either enlisted or received a draft notice, iow, they served in the military during that era----out of 26,800,000 draft eligible men. That means that 15,865,000 draft eligible, red blooded American men [u]neither[/u] enlisted nor received a draft notice. Nearly 16 million military aged American males 'chose' not to serve for a variety of reasons, mostly (from personal observations) because they already had good jobs, didn't want to leave girlfriends, didn't want to be away from mother/father/siblings, or just didn't relish the idea of being shot at. Who am I, a USMC Vietnam combat veteran, to judge one person for not serving for his stated reasons, while 16 million others made the same choice for any number of reasons? [url=http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/monographs/2007/RAND_MG265.pdf]http://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pu ... _MG265.pdf[/url] Relative text begins on pg 27. [/QUOTE]
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