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<blockquote data-quote="Air gator" data-source="post: 1538804" data-attributes="member: 20755"><p>Here's the thing about genetics: I don't believe if you breed ANYTHING you have an absolute split down the middle with 50 percent from each parent. I apologize for repeating myself but if you have 3 flushmates and do the genomic testing you will see they have different scores for different traits...including docility. Epds can give you an indication of what is POSSIBLE.</p><p>One bull calf I had an epd for YW in the 70s and his milk would have been about 21. With genomic testing his yearling epd went to 104 and his milk dropped to 8. The other thing is I would suggest you talk to people about EXT and/or Rampage.</p><p>What I hear about most of these bulls tagged with poor Docility scores is that some calves are "Dog Gentle" and some are (insert adjective of your choice). Charlo is a bull that people say can throw rank calves (I have no idea, my Charlo is in the tank)....look at the docility scores for the famous flush of SAV Raindance, Rainfall, Reign, President, etc. They don't all have the same docility score. Charlo's docility score is 2. Breed average used to be 12. Rainfall 23, Reign 17, Rainmaster 26, President 21, Raindance 13. So, if you took a chance using Charlo at a 2 for docility, only one calf would be below your cutoff of 17....and as you would expect...it might be the best calf of the flush.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Air gator, post: 1538804, member: 20755"] Here's the thing about genetics: I don't believe if you breed ANYTHING you have an absolute split down the middle with 50 percent from each parent. I apologize for repeating myself but if you have 3 flushmates and do the genomic testing you will see they have different scores for different traits...including docility. Epds can give you an indication of what is POSSIBLE. One bull calf I had an epd for YW in the 70s and his milk would have been about 21. With genomic testing his yearling epd went to 104 and his milk dropped to 8. The other thing is I would suggest you talk to people about EXT and/or Rampage. What I hear about most of these bulls tagged with poor Docility scores is that some calves are "Dog Gentle" and some are (insert adjective of your choice). Charlo is a bull that people say can throw rank calves (I have no idea, my Charlo is in the tank)....look at the docility scores for the famous flush of SAV Raindance, Rainfall, Reign, President, etc. They don't all have the same docility score. Charlo's docility score is 2. Breed average used to be 12. Rainfall 23, Reign 17, Rainmaster 26, President 21, Raindance 13. So, if you took a chance using Charlo at a 2 for docility, only one calf would be below your cutoff of 17....and as you would expect...it might be the best calf of the flush. [/QUOTE]
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