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<blockquote data-quote="docgraybull" data-source="post: 79742" data-attributes="member: 885"><p>First of all, thank you for the responses and advice. Secondly, let me clarify what, I think, both of you are indicating regarding the milk epd. That I should consider a <em>lower</em> milk epd? I was thinking (once again, I'm new to trying to utilize this type of information) that a higher sire milk epd would be a good indicator for replacement/retained heifers, so that they would be good milk producers. But what I'm getting from your advice is that with a paternal milk epd of <u>></u> 20 the offspring would, in fact, be good milkers, maybe too good, to the point that they might nurse out condition to the point that they might not readily breed back. If I've understood correctly, what would be the lowest (and highest) milk epd that you would recommend, keeping in mind that I may keep some or all of the heifers for replacements, and assuming that I have plenty of good grass/hay. If I've understood incorrectly, please straighten me out.</p><p></p><p>I understand that actual (or adjusted) weaning or yearling weights will be influenced by supplemental creep, etc. I've seen some weaning weights above 860# with yearling weights above 1500# (obviously supplemented)! But I figured at least 650# (as a minimum) would show <em>some</em> growthiness. The first catalog I've been scanning has weaning weights ranging from 560# up to 770#. They are advertised as performance bulls (not show ring bulls). There's no comment on whether they have been creeped or not. I assume reputable breeders will answer honestly if asked about supplementation of their calves?</p><p></p><p>On the ribeye size, I would <em>like </em>a bigger one also. I'm considering using 12 as a minimum. In your opinion(s) should I raise the standard on this measurement? If so, to what (as a minimum requirement)?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="docgraybull, post: 79742, member: 885"] First of all, thank you for the responses and advice. Secondly, let me clarify what, I think, both of you are indicating regarding the milk epd. That I should consider a [i]lower[/i] milk epd? I was thinking (once again, I'm new to trying to utilize this type of information) that a higher sire milk epd would be a good indicator for replacement/retained heifers, so that they would be good milk producers. But what I'm getting from your advice is that with a paternal milk epd of [u]>[/u] 20 the offspring would, in fact, be good milkers, maybe too good, to the point that they might nurse out condition to the point that they might not readily breed back. If I've understood correctly, what would be the lowest (and highest) milk epd that you would recommend, keeping in mind that I may keep some or all of the heifers for replacements, and assuming that I have plenty of good grass/hay. If I've understood incorrectly, please straighten me out. I understand that actual (or adjusted) weaning or yearling weights will be influenced by supplemental creep, etc. I've seen some weaning weights above 860# with yearling weights above 1500# (obviously supplemented)! But I figured at least 650# (as a minimum) would show [i]some[/i] growthiness. The first catalog I've been scanning has weaning weights ranging from 560# up to 770#. They are advertised as performance bulls (not show ring bulls). There's no comment on whether they have been creeped or not. I assume reputable breeders will answer honestly if asked about supplementation of their calves? On the ribeye size, I would [i]like [/i]a bigger one also. I'm considering using 12 as a minimum. In your opinion(s) should I raise the standard on this measurement? If so, to what (as a minimum requirement)? [/QUOTE]
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