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<blockquote data-quote="bcarty" data-source="post: 1130818" data-attributes="member: 17617"><p>I looked at SAV Mustang and just numbers and the picture he looks good. What frame score is he. His YH EPD id -.1 so he should be reducing frame size a small amount which is what I want and his growth numbers are right where I want to be. Now I just need to find some sons of him for reasonable $ and a reasonable distance from home. I will not buy overfed bull calves just to watch them fall apart I want someone who has developed them on forage not on grain. That never works for the commercial guy. If you know anyone who will have bulls that fit this category let me know. </p><p></p><p>BSE - I don't have a set number of replacement heifers I keep every year. I am trying to grow my herd with home produced cows so I try to keep as many as possible. I am actually really strict on what heifers I keep tho. When I get ready to evaluate my heifers I actually start with all of them and eval them basically one at a time. I start with age. I almost never keep a heifer born out of the first 3o days in my calving season and then move through several other parameters. I have kept as many as 50 a couple years ago and down to only about 20 this year. Really depends on cull cow sales and how much I like the heifers as calves. Part of this years group of heifers are sim angus heifers and I decided to sell majority of them as feeders because they grew really good and calf prices lured me into selling them. </p><p>I do keep a separate herd of crossbred cows that I put a terminal bull on to produce those feeder animals and I do not keep any of them as replacements. Typically the cows are close to straight angus and I come back with a black terminal bull (Simm) and get good results. I got talked into keeping serveral of the heifers as replacements a few years ago and I really liked them as cows, but they are just getting too much frame on them, so I have went back to selling them. The guy that usually buys them is who talked me into keeping them. He built his whole herd (only 50 cows) from my terminal cross heifers. He really likes them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bcarty, post: 1130818, member: 17617"] I looked at SAV Mustang and just numbers and the picture he looks good. What frame score is he. His YH EPD id -.1 so he should be reducing frame size a small amount which is what I want and his growth numbers are right where I want to be. Now I just need to find some sons of him for reasonable $ and a reasonable distance from home. I will not buy overfed bull calves just to watch them fall apart I want someone who has developed them on forage not on grain. That never works for the commercial guy. If you know anyone who will have bulls that fit this category let me know. BSE - I don't have a set number of replacement heifers I keep every year. I am trying to grow my herd with home produced cows so I try to keep as many as possible. I am actually really strict on what heifers I keep tho. When I get ready to evaluate my heifers I actually start with all of them and eval them basically one at a time. I start with age. I almost never keep a heifer born out of the first 3o days in my calving season and then move through several other parameters. I have kept as many as 50 a couple years ago and down to only about 20 this year. Really depends on cull cow sales and how much I like the heifers as calves. Part of this years group of heifers are sim angus heifers and I decided to sell majority of them as feeders because they grew really good and calf prices lured me into selling them. I do keep a separate herd of crossbred cows that I put a terminal bull on to produce those feeder animals and I do not keep any of them as replacements. Typically the cows are close to straight angus and I come back with a black terminal bull (Simm) and get good results. I got talked into keeping serveral of the heifers as replacements a few years ago and I really liked them as cows, but they are just getting too much frame on them, so I have went back to selling them. The guy that usually buys them is who talked me into keeping them. He built his whole herd (only 50 cows) from my terminal cross heifers. He really likes them. [/QUOTE]
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