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<blockquote data-quote="bcarty" data-source="post: 1129488" data-attributes="member: 17617"><p>Ok I'm looking for some advice on bull selection. I have a mostly angus cowherd (200 mommas) with some recent influx of simm genetics. I like the growth of the simm animals and I like how the sim angus mommas produce. They are some real calf producers, but most (probably 60%) of my cows just are not think enough for my liking. I cant add more simm genetics without greatly increasing frame score and I actually want to go the other way a bit. Most of my cows are between 5 and 6 on frame and that's pretty close to where I want to be. If I could shift a half a frame score down I would be more satisfied and add as much thickness as possible. I really like the look of the native Scottish cattle (Dunlouise Jipsey Earl) and that is the direction I am looking to go. I realize that is the exact opposite direction of using Simm genetics on my angus cows and should I go that route would have some major inconsistencies with my calf crop for a while, but I need more thickness on my cows to get those super soggy calves. I guess to end this book I'm asking for some sires that are going to move me in the right direction. AI is not an option on all my cows but a select few would be doable. I would be open to any suggestions. Thanks in advance.</p><p></p><p>I forgot to mention that the WW and YW of the traditional Scottish cattle are scaring me away from using them. I just don't know if I could stomach a loss in WW of 45 lbs per calf. I don't think it would be that bad because its an outcross and I would get some heterosis in there but at todays prices that's $90 per head difference. :shock:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bcarty, post: 1129488, member: 17617"] Ok I'm looking for some advice on bull selection. I have a mostly angus cowherd (200 mommas) with some recent influx of simm genetics. I like the growth of the simm animals and I like how the sim angus mommas produce. They are some real calf producers, but most (probably 60%) of my cows just are not think enough for my liking. I cant add more simm genetics without greatly increasing frame score and I actually want to go the other way a bit. Most of my cows are between 5 and 6 on frame and that's pretty close to where I want to be. If I could shift a half a frame score down I would be more satisfied and add as much thickness as possible. I really like the look of the native Scottish cattle (Dunlouise Jipsey Earl) and that is the direction I am looking to go. I realize that is the exact opposite direction of using Simm genetics on my angus cows and should I go that route would have some major inconsistencies with my calf crop for a while, but I need more thickness on my cows to get those super soggy calves. I guess to end this book I'm asking for some sires that are going to move me in the right direction. AI is not an option on all my cows but a select few would be doable. I would be open to any suggestions. Thanks in advance. I forgot to mention that the WW and YW of the traditional Scottish cattle are scaring me away from using them. I just don't know if I could stomach a loss in WW of 45 lbs per calf. I don't think it would be that bad because its an outcross and I would get some heterosis in there but at todays prices that's $90 per head difference. :shock: [/QUOTE]
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