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<blockquote data-quote="pdfangus" data-source="post: 1129498" data-attributes="member: 6543"><p>the only place I would disagree with you is in your assumption that what happens in the show ring has any correlation to breeding great cattle.....using your own evidence I would argue that the reverse is true.........the master breeders are usually unknown to the masses until they are nearing the end of their tenure....master breeders have a goal and an ideal in mind and spend a lifetime trying to achieve it....they are not the ones chasing fads and judges....</p><p></p><p>also if you read my entire post rather than keying in on one phrase you would see that I stated that I have been a performance breeder all my life.....I have not abandoned the importance of performance.....but this latest trend of having an EPD for everything from the number of teeth to the number of tail hairs is nothing more than the latest fad that the pseudo masters are chasing....EPDs cannot replace in herd performance and where possible across herd performance comparisons....</p><p></p><p>and taking out the variables of environment is a load of crap....livestock MUST be adapted to the environment they have to live in....</p><p></p><p>my daddy use to use an old saying......figures don't lie......but liars do figure....not talking about anyone here but the trend of hiding everything behind a myriad of numbers that are based on other made up numbers.......</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pdfangus, post: 1129498, member: 6543"] the only place I would disagree with you is in your assumption that what happens in the show ring has any correlation to breeding great cattle.....using your own evidence I would argue that the reverse is true.........the master breeders are usually unknown to the masses until they are nearing the end of their tenure....master breeders have a goal and an ideal in mind and spend a lifetime trying to achieve it....they are not the ones chasing fads and judges.... also if you read my entire post rather than keying in on one phrase you would see that I stated that I have been a performance breeder all my life.....I have not abandoned the importance of performance.....but this latest trend of having an EPD for everything from the number of teeth to the number of tail hairs is nothing more than the latest fad that the pseudo masters are chasing....EPDs cannot replace in herd performance and where possible across herd performance comparisons.... and taking out the variables of environment is a load of crap....livestock MUST be adapted to the environment they have to live in.... my daddy use to use an old saying......figures don't lie......but liars do figure....not talking about anyone here but the trend of hiding everything behind a myriad of numbers that are based on other made up numbers....... [/QUOTE]
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