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<blockquote data-quote="Son of Butch" data-source="post: 1662843" data-attributes="member: 14585"><p>To say the start of the civil war is a complex issue is an understatement.</p><p>Further muddled by the victor's historians promoting their storyline showing</p><p>themselves to be the heroes. "To the victor goes the spoils."</p><p>To find truth one must look at the events occurring and what was being said</p><p>before the war rather than after.</p><p></p><p>1793 Canada became the first territory in the British Empire to outlaw slavery</p><p>1794 France abolished slavery</p><p>1807 UK outlawed international slave trade and imposed fines</p><p>1811 UK authorized the Royal Navy to seize slave ships and from 1808-1860</p><p>1,600 ships were seized and 150,000 slaves freed</p><p>1834 UK abolished slavery and paid slave owners in today's dollars $1200-3,000 per registered slave freed. To finance the payments England received a loan of 5 billion in today's dollars from Jewish Banker Nathan Rothschild, whose family today owns a large share of the Federal Reserve. (It's not federal and there is no reserve)</p><p>The Rothschild family also financed loans to both sides of the civil war.</p><p>It's estimated the Union spent 1.2 trillion in todays dollars on the war.</p><p></p><p>1856 James Buchannan age 65, from Pennsylvania elected president - pledged</p><p>to serve only 1 term and that his priority would be harmony between northern</p><p>and southern states.</p><p>He opposed slavery, but believed it was a matter of state's rights and that</p><p>there were large coalitions in the south moving to abolish slavery peacefully.</p><p>He spoke out against Northern Abolitionist aggression saying their actions</p><p>inflamed passions and would postpone emancipation by 50 years in 3 or 4</p><p>southern states.</p><p></p><p>"Although in Pennsylvania we are all opposed to slavery in the abstract, we can never violate the constitutional compact we have with our sister states.</p><p>Their rights will be held sacred by us. Under the constitution it is their own question and there let it remain." - James Buchanan</p><p>So of course 7 states seceded while he was president - lol - true</p><p></p><p>In office from March 4 1857 to March 4 1861</p><p>He fulfilled his promise of only seeking one term and in December the month after Lincoln was elected South Carolina seceded. Despite the efforts of he and former President John Tyler to reason with southern leaders to stop the secession and give Lincoln a chance, but by the end of January 6 more states had seceded.</p><p>Because they FEARED what Lincoln maybe might do. Lincoln took office in March and the south attacked Fort Sumter on April 11, 1961.</p><p>During the 1st year the civil war was sometimes called "Buchanan's War."</p><p></p><p>Buchanan thought restraint was the essence of good self government and wrongly predicted that history would vindicate him.</p><p></p><p>Morale of the story: when FEAR is the motivating factor it's impossible to talk sense into anyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Son of Butch, post: 1662843, member: 14585"] To say the start of the civil war is a complex issue is an understatement. Further muddled by the victor's historians promoting their storyline showing themselves to be the heroes. "To the victor goes the spoils." To find truth one must look at the events occurring and what was being said before the war rather than after. 1793 Canada became the first territory in the British Empire to outlaw slavery 1794 France abolished slavery 1807 UK outlawed international slave trade and imposed fines 1811 UK authorized the Royal Navy to seize slave ships and from 1808-1860 1,600 ships were seized and 150,000 slaves freed 1834 UK abolished slavery and paid slave owners in today's dollars $1200-3,000 per registered slave freed. To finance the payments England received a loan of 5 billion in today's dollars from Jewish Banker Nathan Rothschild, whose family today owns a large share of the Federal Reserve. (It's not federal and there is no reserve) The Rothschild family also financed loans to both sides of the civil war. It's estimated the Union spent 1.2 trillion in todays dollars on the war. 1856 James Buchannan age 65, from Pennsylvania elected president - pledged to serve only 1 term and that his priority would be harmony between northern and southern states. He opposed slavery, but believed it was a matter of state's rights and that there were large coalitions in the south moving to abolish slavery peacefully. He spoke out against Northern Abolitionist aggression saying their actions inflamed passions and would postpone emancipation by 50 years in 3 or 4 southern states. "Although in Pennsylvania we are all opposed to slavery in the abstract, we can never violate the constitutional compact we have with our sister states. Their rights will be held sacred by us. Under the constitution it is their own question and there let it remain." - James Buchanan So of course 7 states seceded while he was president - lol - true In office from March 4 1857 to March 4 1861 He fulfilled his promise of only seeking one term and in December the month after Lincoln was elected South Carolina seceded. Despite the efforts of he and former President John Tyler to reason with southern leaders to stop the secession and give Lincoln a chance, but by the end of January 6 more states had seceded. Because they FEARED what Lincoln maybe might do. Lincoln took office in March and the south attacked Fort Sumter on April 11, 1961. During the 1st year the civil war was sometimes called "Buchanan's War." Buchanan thought restraint was the essence of good self government and wrongly predicted that history would vindicate him. Morale of the story: when FEAR is the motivating factor it's impossible to talk sense into anyone. [/QUOTE]
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