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<blockquote data-quote="flaboy+" data-source="post: 172451" data-attributes="member: 2489"><p>I will take a shot at this but I am sure you will get various opinions.</p><p>1. I have run horses with cows with no problems. On the other hand I had a horse that would run the cows all over the place. Depends on the horse. I would not risk putting a horse in with cattle with horns. Mine at that time were all polled.</p><p>2. Good fences make good neighbors. The Angus bull WILL come visit and most likely if there is only two strands of electric fence it won't stop him. He won't have second thoughts about hurting your bull if your bull is after the same heifer. The bull doesn't care about which heifers belong to you or not. To him is just another one to breed. I suggest a real fence in combination with the electric fence. I recommend field fence with barbed wire on the neighbors side of your post and at the top. I recommend the fence be 5 feet high with barbed wire string down the very top. I recommend electric fence up about 30 inches on both sides of your fence. My opinion is this is a wreck looking to happen eventually.</p><p>3. Buy a beef tape or have someone you trust (experienced) estimate the weight. Why do you need to know? </p><p>4. I NEVER breed a sire to a daughter. I might consider half brother to half sister but that is as far as I would go. Trade if you can. If you can't sell the heifers and buy more. </p><p></p><p>I will probably catch flack for this but I don't like to keep first calves. By this I mean the first calf a heifer has had. MY experience is they don't grow off as well as a second or third calf. Some say it's bull stuff but when I have first calves and see they are much smaller than the others that are not, it's apparent to me. This is NOT always the case but I just don't mess with first calves anymore. JMO</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="flaboy+, post: 172451, member: 2489"] I will take a shot at this but I am sure you will get various opinions. 1. I have run horses with cows with no problems. On the other hand I had a horse that would run the cows all over the place. Depends on the horse. I would not risk putting a horse in with cattle with horns. Mine at that time were all polled. 2. Good fences make good neighbors. The Angus bull WILL come visit and most likely if there is only two strands of electric fence it won't stop him. He won't have second thoughts about hurting your bull if your bull is after the same heifer. The bull doesn't care about which heifers belong to you or not. To him is just another one to breed. I suggest a real fence in combination with the electric fence. I recommend field fence with barbed wire on the neighbors side of your post and at the top. I recommend the fence be 5 feet high with barbed wire string down the very top. I recommend electric fence up about 30 inches on both sides of your fence. My opinion is this is a wreck looking to happen eventually. 3. Buy a beef tape or have someone you trust (experienced) estimate the weight. Why do you need to know? 4. I NEVER breed a sire to a daughter. I might consider half brother to half sister but that is as far as I would go. Trade if you can. If you can't sell the heifers and buy more. I will probably catch flack for this but I don't like to keep first calves. By this I mean the first calf a heifer has had. MY experience is they don't grow off as well as a second or third calf. Some say it's bull stuff but when I have first calves and see they are much smaller than the others that are not, it's apparent to me. This is NOT always the case but I just don't mess with first calves anymore. JMO [/QUOTE]
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