2008 Pharo Sale. DON'T MISS IT!!

[blackcowz]

November 10th-11th there will be the semi-annual PCC sale at Burlington, CO. Heifers sell on Monday and the bulls on Tuesday. Please don't write off these cows as too small. They get fat and stay fat on brown grass and get fat and produce good beef on grain. The heifer I bought at the 2006 sale won 2007 Grand Champion cow/calf pair at the county show. Very gentle and always worth the money.

 

[blackcowz]

Figured some would probly be that way. But still, if ya want to come out and visit, lots of guys are out there who would just talk about cows, the weather, and other things besides Kit's stuff. If you or anyone else wants to come or might just be interested, I'll be the kid in the kaki PCC cap with a coat that says either Cade or MYT Show Cattle.

 

[blackcowz]

I have another update. There will be a cattleman's meeting on Monday night that gives a FREE rundown of low stress livestock handling. There will also be a producers meeting, plus, you can just form a little group and talk about whatever you want. There is a fine steakhouse in town, and going to this sale is a wonderful vacation!

 

[blackcowz]

One last bump. Hope to see some of you there! If you make it, don't be afraid to walk up and say hi!

 

[EAT BEEF]

You like Kits Kool-Aid do ya As much as I like to rag on Kit I do like some of the cattle he markets.I wish I could make it,but he might shoot me.

 

[Frankie]

I watched the first part of the sale and somebody likes his program. Several bulls sold in the $6,000 range. At least one for $7,000. He's doing something right.

 

[W.T]

Well another succesfull Pharo sale. The Avg 3300 it must work for a lot of people. Their are a lot of buyers with several bulls, and repeat buyers are the norm. I think maybe Pharo cattle should be taken very seriously. They must work for a lot of people who have the money to spend. Remember money talks and b/S walks. :ba :cowboy:

 

[Bluestem]

Well another succesfull Pharo sale. The Avg 3300 it must work for a lot of people. Their are a lot of buyers with several bulls, and repeat buyers are the norm. I think maybe Pharo cattle should be taken very seriously. They must work for a lot of people who have the money to spend. Remember money talks and b/S walks. :ba :cowboy:

Yeah there is probably a niche market for them midget cattle breeders that need a 3 or 4 frame bull in order to breed their mini cows.

And Detroit is building monster SUV's and going bankrupt. Whose right? Pharo cattle aren't mini's. Remember- Those waiting in line for a bailout will be passed by those that are not. Hard times require an open mind and the flexibility to change. Good luck.

 

[Bluestem]

Compared to my 6-7 frame cows those would be considered minis.[/quote]
Well, when you are ready, we can knock some size off them.

 

[blackcowz]

Compared to your 6-7 frame cows, I would be willing to gamble that mine would outlast yours in my environment. I've got a couple 4 framers that weigh 1300-1400#/ Big enough?

 

[W.T]

Four frame cattle are not small. Many of mine will reach 1200lbs plus. The steers are not small either 1250 live and 750 hanging wt at yield grade 2. I remember being docked for carcuss over 750 in 2003. Are we not in the cattle business for us to make money. A cow that will wean over 50% of her body wt on grass is a very good cow, In a sagebrush ecosystem 500- 550 lb calf is usally what the enviroment can produce in 6-7 months. In drought years 400-450 may be the best you get. Now a frame 6-7 cow that weighs 1400-1500lbs has got a real challenge to produce 50% of her wt in a calf. She might come close in a real good year, But in a drought year you get the same 400-450lb calf. With a lot more winter cost and open cows. A stockman must remember that it is what your enviroment can produce that is the limiting factor of what you produce.

 

[GRTiger85]

People paid alot of money for some pretty sorry looking bulls

 

[blackcowz]

I beg your pardon? As in thin? Small, yes. I saw most of the 360 of them in person. All fat as ticks and in good shape. Lots of gut and some sustainability there.

 

[Oldtimer]

This and the next picture are of a heifer that will never make it out of the 4 frame category- sired by the double bred 6807 bull I had, and out of a little hereford cow- and her first calf...This is the one that if I had my druthers, I'd love to have 200 of... I just sold her calf yesterday and he weighed 626 lbs.... :roll:

 

[Frankie]

Kit Pharo is obviously doing someting right or he wouldn't have the successful sales that he's had for the last several years. I just wonder, though, if someone is paying $6-7,000 for a bull, does that still qualify as a "low input" operation?

 

[blackcowz]

Good point. I guess we all try to make a few extra dollars where we can. I reckon if folks make enough money from their low input cows, they have enough to go out and buy a $7,000 bull.

 

[W.T]

Absolutely Not. And by the results of his bull sales there are a lot of cattle men that must think the same.

 

[RD-Sam]

I really liked the looks of their bull, BAA Viking 5105A, but that EPD just doesn't cut it when you are comparing to even the top 200 bulls in the breed. If they are making a boat load of money I can't say I understand why. :???:

 

[blackcowz]

'Cause some guys are figuring out that chasing big numbers isn't the way to go. If you chase big numbers with Angus, you must own a feedlot and a lot of hay. The bulls that do their stuff no nothing but grass in rugged environments are appreciated and coming into high demand. Plus, Kit is good at making a market for his beeves. But folks are obviously not getting suckered because they keep coming back for dependable, rugged, easy doing, and honest genetics.

 

[RD-Sam]

Or selling to feedlots? If you look at the pedigree on that bull I mentioned, he has some of the top lines in the breed in his pedigree, but is really lacking in the EPD, except for efficiency. There are many lines out there that have good efficiency and still have the big numbers people are looking for also.