.07 per pound

[skyhightree1]

Tyson telling me they are paying .07 per lb and 30,000 chickens go in each house and said my avg I make off each house would be 30,000 a year ... Hmm... no thanks each house 475,000 plus typical upgrades are 50,000 to 100,000 no thanks.

 

[Son of Butch]

In my mind those type of contractor relationships are a legalized form of indentured servitude. :2cents:

 

[kenny thomas]

Got a friend near you Sky that retired and built 3 houses. His problem is that if the chickens that are picked up today wouldn't get replaced for 2-3 weeks. He could make 5 rotation a year with the 5th one being mostly profit. But usually only gets 4 because of the company not delivering. He had so much investment that he couldn't quit. It's been 12 years like this.

 

[greybeard]

Tyson telling me they are paying .07 per lb and 30,000 chickens go in each house and said my avg I make off each house would be 30,000 a year ... Hmm... no thanks each house 475,000 plus typical upgrades are 50,000 to 100,000 no thanks.

http://thelifeofafarmerswife.blogspot.c ... house.html

Considering how many broods you can run thru each house each year, (30,000 ..less about 2-5% mortality...every 35 days if you are going to raise broilers to 4lbs) that's not even close to $1/chicken.

Lots and lots of infrastructure needed. A really good backup generator, young birds would need 400gal water/day per house and more mature birds would need 2500 gal per day per house.

 

[skyhightree1]

Got a friend near you Sky that retired and built 3 houses. His problem is that if the chickens that are picked up today wouldn't get replaced for 2-3 weeks. He could make 5 rotation a year with the 5th one being mostly profit. But usually only gets 4 because of the company not delivering. He had so much investment that he couldn't quit. It's been 12 years like this.

That's pretty much same I heard I told him no thanks.. AGAIN... If they bought the buildingsand paid for the upgrades I would do it for half per lb.

 

[Bestoutwest]

In the movie Food, Inc. they go and talk to chicken house farmers. There's no way anyone can make money on that deal except for Tyson. It appears to be a vicious cycle of living hand-to-mouth once you get into those deals.

 

[HDRider]

Those things sprung up like dandelions around here. We have 1,000s of them in a three county area. They stink

Brought to us by Peco foods, 8th largest poultry producer in the U.S., Fully integrated grower, processor, and marketer, Corporate Office: Tuscaloosa, Alabama, Family owned for 3 generations, In business for 80 years

 

[jltrent]

You can sell laying hens at the flea market for $10 each. They maybe a better deal.

 

[skyhightree1]

You can sell laying hens at the flea market for $10 each. They maybe a better deal.

I agree lol

 

[True Grit Farms]

A friend of mine has 27 chicken houses and farms 1100 acres of peanuts and corn only. He makes more selling and using the litter for fertilizer. The chicken houses makes it all possible and very profitable.

 

[snoopdog]

It's possible to come out, most don't, because they don't really want to work it. It is absolutely a full time job. That said, the only people that I know that actually did really good, were the ones with a natural gas well that could sustain the operation in the winter. There is money in the litter, and breeder pullets pays a lot better than broilers. Usually, on a 3 house farm, 2 make the payments, and the ratio stays the same, but yeah ,indentured servitude most of the time.

 

[Jogeephus]

You just need more houses Sky.

Don't know if this still applies but at one time you could borrow money from Farm Credit for your houses and then the ASCS office would guarantee the loan so Farm Credit got the interest and the department of agriculture carried all the risk.

 

[skyhightree1]

You just need more houses Sky.

Don't know if this still applies but at one time you could borrow money from Farm Credit for your houses and then the ASCS office would guarantee the loan so Farm Credit got the interest and the department of agriculture carried all the risk.

Lol . My understanding is Tyson backs the loan with a contract with the farm credit bank they never mentioned DOA having anything to do with it

 

[Lucky]

Several people in my area have chicken houses. Some farms have 2 houses some have up to twelve. To me it seems like anything else, some do well with them some complain they can’t make a dollar and are going broke. I do hear them talk about not getting birds fairly often but they do recieve some type of payment if not supplied birds. We have a good spot for houses but just don’t think I could go 2 million in debt and have to rely on a big company doing what they said they’d do for the next 10 years. I can’t even think of a use for a chicken house other than chickens so you gotta live with it.

 

[Jogeephus]

You just need more houses Sky.

Don't know if this still applies but at one time you could borrow money from Farm Credit for your houses and then the ASCS office would guarantee the loan so Farm Credit got the interest and the department of agriculture carried all the risk.

Lol . My understanding is Tyson backs the loan with a contract with the farm credit bank they never mentioned DOA having anything to do with it

That may well be how it is now. This was several years ago. Friend of mine worked for farm credit and he said he didn't like the figures or the risk but as long as the government was guaranteeing the loans then he'd loan them all the money they wanted because they couldn't lose.

I think its like Lucky points out, some will make money with it and some can't make money with a brothel. I know some of the guys have said they make as much if not more from the fertilizer savings as they do from the birds themselves. With as many houses as been put in down here I expected the price of litter to go down but its done nothing but go up.

If chickens don't work out you could always grow pot in the houses.

 

[Dave]

I know a guy who had 4 big modern houses. He got too active in the state fryer growers asso. Foster Farms pulled his contract. The only other chicken processor in the state wouldn't give him a contract. Ended up breaking him. Funny how the person who bought his place at a discount price got a contract with Foster Farms as soon as the ink was dry.

 

[boondocks]

Good article on how we all subsidize Tyson et al: https://www.motherjones.com/food/2018/0 ... en-farmer/

 

[DCA farm]

I know a man who has 6 of the most high tech ones that you can own and he's building 6 more so he's making money some how. I know he sells fertilizer and he also sales fertilized hay and runs cows maybe a combination of all 4 is how he keeps the lights on idk I don't talk to him about the ins and outs of his operation I just know he wouldn't be building 6 more if he wasn't able to put food on the table with the 6 he already has

 

[ddd75]

yea.. 6 chicken houses.. probably has 1.5 million+ in them. they just give million dollar loans to people who are barely making it.

i'm sure he's barely keeping the lights on.


lol

 

[Stocker Steve]

Good article on how we all subsidize Tyson et al: https://www.motherjones.com/food/2018/0 ... en-farmer/

Good thing that cattlemen are not working for just $11.50 per hour. :nod: