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I l really liked crossing a Charolais bull with one of my black heifers. Little guy grew out good. He was mud fat when he went to the sale. Top pic he was 2 days old and bottom pic was right at 4 months. The only thing I don't like is the chance of horns.

I know what you mean about hindquarter. He's alright but he ain't what I really wanted. The price was right and I thought he'd fill out better than he has.

I don't know a whole lot about him Fitz. We got him at a bull sale in McAlester fall of 2013. He was 2 years old then. He's supposed to be a simmental angus cross. No famous bloodlines in the wood pile that I know of.

I wanted to do it like the rest of my corrals but the price of pipe went way up and my desire to work that hard went way down in the last 17 years.

He's not much to look at but he does his job and makes a little calf

Here's some of my girls

I'm in the middle of learning this same lesson. Bought a slick jet black 3 year old beauty queen that barely makes enough milk for your frosted flakes every morning.