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I've had around a dozen calves off him in the last 10 years, used him sparingly due to limited availability. So take that into consideration as a small sample size. Pros: can really add power to a cow, especially if she's too fine. Makes good thick females without going too extreme on height. Or...

I'd like to hear your perspective on his marbling and feed efficiency numbers. I don't agree with chasing marbling, but neither do I want to give it up since it is probably one of the biggest reasons Angus is where it is today.

The daughters off quiet cows are good, the ones off cows that are heads up seem to be worse yet than their cows. I have a couple that will try to kill you and shove their calves around bawling the whole time. I had to throw a bale feeder over a calf (with the tractor) to keep one from killing...

I've got a number of bruiser daughters, and you got to really watch the udder suspension and the temperament. Treasure looks good on doc, but I would try to find out how he is on udders before using him on your heifers.