Hunk of hoof gone in calf

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Calf slit her hoof at about 2-3 months old (second pic I think). She hobbled for quite a while, gave her some draxxin, kept her clean as I could and she healed up and seemed to do fine after about 3-4 weeks even though it still seemed to ooze and bleed just a tick on occasion. Eventually (3 months later) that hunk of hoof separated (first pic) and today seems like it's gone entirely. It did bleed a bit (couple drops in the snow) while this was all happening, but today she seems no worse for wear at 7 months old with what seems like 25% of the outside of her hoof gone. Question is this - is that possible? Does that flesh in there just "scab" over like the skin under a finger nail that comes off? I figured eventually it would just get all infected and stuff and it would be a constant battle to keep her healthy while I just fed her out, but it doesn't even seem to bleed or ooze any more and she could care less.

Not sure the pics will help or not... one pic is when it first happened. The second pic is with a hunk still hanging there.
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I had just delt with a calf degloving the outside rear claw, seen by my vet, 3 month old bottle calf, ended up keeping him wrapped in a heavy bedded stall
changed the wrap every 3 to 4 days ,with nonstick pads and cling rolled gauze with vet wrap , sprayed Barrier iodine with lidocaine, then the pads with nitrofurazone (per a vet ) and these are the pictures
one month out , and after a little over 2 months . I was lucky that he is a good boy that I could drop on the ground to DR
I also had a yearling grow new hoofs down inside the hoof capsule,
Suzanne
 

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The initial injury is along the coronary band so i don't think you will get any normal growth of that hoof there but you will get some hoof material covering it like coming out from the laminae of the hoof and it will be well sealed up. The hoof may need some trimming from time to time but I am sure she will be pretty functional. That 2nd photo shows a bit of oozing and blood and it looks like proud flesh under the broken bit of hoof. She will be much better off without that tab hanging there irritating and things should dry out and seal over now.

Ken
 
suzorse said:
I had just delt with a calf degloving the outside rear claw, seen by my vet, 3 month old bottle calf, ended up keeping him wrapped in a heavy bedded stall
changed the wrap every 3 to 4 days ,with nonstick pads and cling rolled gauze with vet wrap , sprayed Barrier iodine with lidocaine, then the pads with nitrofurazone (per a vet ) and these are the pictures
one month out , and after a little over 2 months . I was lucky that he is a good boy that I could drop on the ground to DR
I also had a yearling grow new hoofs down inside the hoof capsule,
Suzanne
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Never heard of degloving. That sounds horrible. Is that a mechanical thing where the hoof gets trapped under something or does it just sometimes happen?
 
wbvs58 said:
The initial injury is along the coronary band so i don't think you will get any normal growth of that hoof there but you will get some hoof material covering it like coming out from the laminae of the hoof and it will be well sealed up. The hoof may need some trimming from time to time but I am sure she will be pretty functional. That 2nd photo shows a bit of oozing and blood and it looks like proud flesh under the broken bit of hoof. She will be much better off without that tab hanging there irritating and things should dry out and seal over now.

Ken
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thanks for the reply. the second photo is actually the initial injury when it first happened. the first photo (out of chronological order) was about 2-3 months after the injury. I guess I didn't realize hoof covering would grow back. I guess that's what must be happening.
 
angus9259 said:
Never heard of degloving. That sounds horrible. Is that a mechanical thing where the hoof gets trapped under something or does it just sometimes happen?
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when I seen the amount of blood in his pen I thought he had cut himself so after I loaded him, in the trailer I inspected his pen to see what he cut himself on , and when checking the combo panels and fence on the other side I found the hoof that he had caught somehow and pulled off , he still had the coronary band intact , 1st vet said if it did not heal we could amputate the claw , and a second one I talked to said it will heal , use the furazone and keep it wrapped , I did not get a picture of the injury right after it happened as it was a raw nasty looking stump , first picture was at 1 month after injury , wall is almost all the way down and bottom still needed to close the sole , injury on October 19 at 3 months old , second one was November 20 th and the one outside was early January , it is still shorter now but gaining
Suzanne
these are pictures of the yearling that was shedding her hooves , had her trimmed a week later and she had a new hoof on the inside only attached at the toe in a tiny spot, so walking was painfull as it pinched
he removed the outside wall on both fronts
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suzorse said:
when I seen the amount of blood in his pen I thought he had cut himself so after I loaded him, in the trailer I inspected his pen to see what he cut himself on , and when checking the combo panels and fence on the other side I found the hoof that he had caught somehow and pulled off , he still had the coronary band intact , 1st vet said if it did not heal we could amputate the claw , and a second one I talked to said it will heal , use the furazone and keep it wrapped , I did not get a picture of the injury right after it happened as it was a raw nasty looking stump , first picture was at 1 month after injury , wall is almost all the way down and bottom still needed to close the sole , injury on October 19 at 3 months old , second one was November 20 th and the one outside was early January , it is still shorter now but gaining
Suzanne
these are pictures of the yearling that was shedding her hooves , had her trimmed a week later and she had a new hoof on the inside only attached at the toe in a tiny spot, so walking was painfull as it pinched
he removed the outside wall on both fronts
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I had a twin heifer that got laminitis while just on her mothers milk and grass, she was sore in all 4 feet and used to graze on her knees. In was going to shoot her a few times but persisted and about 9 months later she shedded the old hooves just like in your photo and there was brand new hooves underneath. I put her in calf along with her sister at about 15 months and sold them PTIC, never looked back.

Ken
 
wbvs58 said:
I had a twin heifer that got laminitis while just on her mothers milk and grass, she was sore in all 4 feet and used to graze on her knees. In was going to shoot her a few times but persisted and about 9 months later she shedded the old hooves just like in your photo and there was brand new hooves underneath. I put her in calf along with her sister at about 15 months and sold them PTIC, never looked back.

Ken
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this one was also only on the cow and grass , she was sold and the plan was to butcher , I do have her 1/2 sister raised the same way , with no problems
Suzanne
 
Now that ya'll are mentioning this, I'm now remembering finding a claw in pasture a couple years back. No one was ever lame or even limping. Just a random claw. Perhaps that's a situation where a claw was growing in underneath an existing claw as you mention? Still no idea which animal it was....
 
A claw growing under a claw is regular for some animals. My cats are a good example. That allows them to keep their claws sharp, much to my dismay at times looking a some furniture, door jambs, and occasionally my arms when I've grabbed the cat as it was doing something I didn't like, and in turn, it didn't like me grabbing it. The deer (those that survived having EHD) all had this. It also happens when you mistake your thumb nail for a nail used to fasten pieces of wood together and apply a hammer to it. There may or may not be permanent damage to the nail base, although it will heal. It will take a good long time to grow back out, if it does, although I would say there is a fair to good chance the hoof will be normal again, eventually.
 

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