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The fencer got done building fence which was destroyed by the fire last year. I happened to be up there when they were putting the finishing touches on a gate. Good luck opening or closing that gate. Snug gates are good but when they are so tight but when they are so tight that it takes 3 men to shut it they are just too tight. Then yesterday the wife was up there. She said ti was easy to open the gate which gets the most traffic. The fencers built a cheater using one of those 4 foot stays which gives a lot of leverage. The wife said good luck opening the gate down to Little Sinker.
 
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GoWyo said:
We put these or a version of them on just about every gate here so they can be tight and relatively easy to open and close.

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I do like those but they aren't easy to attach to steel gate posts. I am considering making some similar to this one. For the U shaped which attaches to the gate I would use a big horse shoe which is opened up some. For the round rod on this one I would use various scrap metal which I have around. The only thing I would need to buy is the chain.


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Dave said:
I do like those but they aren't easy to attach to steel gate posts. I am considering making some similar to this one. For the U shaped which attaches to the gate I would use a big horse shoe which is opened up some. For the round rod on this one I would use various scrap metal which I have around. The only thing I would need to buy is the chain.


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I like those too. I do weld the lever latches to pipe posts and the work ok.
 
GoWyo said:
I like those too. I do weld the lever latches to pipe posts and the work ok.
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I would have to have a portable welder which I don't have. And there is a lot of dry grass up there now and I really don't want to start another fire.

Brute 23 said:
We use to have them too. My favorite ones were when you had to pull the whole fence tight with the gap to close it. 😄
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The wire gates which you call gaps are every where around here. The only metal swinging gates are in the corral or around the house. That is not just me it is everyone. It maybe cost a buck to build a wire gate. Metal tube gates are $100+ for the cheap ones.
 
wbvs58 said:
A length of 3x2 timber will work just as well and the tension is easily adjusted with a few more twists in the wire attaching it to the post.

Ken
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That’s what most around here use, some type of wood . Many are just pieces of cedar or whatever tree branch is handy . Cost almost nothing . Just the time to assemble them.
 
Last Sunday at church three of us were talking about gates built too tight and different cheaters to close them. One of the guys worked for the Wine Cup ranch which is huge in SE Idaho/NE Nevada. He said they had a fence builder who prided himself on building gates so tight that nobody could open them. He said the cowboys often resorted to using their rope and the horse to opening and shutting the gates.
He said one of the cowboys had a handlebar mustash that was waxed about a foot long on each side which he was real proud of. He was closing a tough gate. Put his shoulder on the gate, arms around the post. When he finally got it far enough for the wire to drop it caught his mustash. The other 2 cowboys there just sat on their horses and laughed.
 
Dave said:
The wire gates which you call gaps are every where around here. The only metal swinging gates are in the corral or around the house. That is not just me it is everyone. It maybe cost a buck to build a wire gate. Metal tube gates are $100+ for the cheap ones.
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That is some interesting math. I would like to see a pic of this $1 gate.
 
Brute 23 said:
That is some interesting math. I would like to see a pic of this $1 gate.
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If wire $130+/- per roll be $.098 per foot and if 16' gate gaps with 5-wire gate so 20' per strand is 100' total or around $9.80 for wire. Then a couple 3" posts or pole end scrap for gate stays on each end, probably in it for under $25 and rancher time to build them isn't worth anything, so way cheaper than tube gates. Tube gates can tend to walk off if public has access to them.
 
GoWyo said:
If wire $130+/- per roll be $.098 per foot and if 16' gate gaps with 5-wire gate so 20' per strand is 100' total or around $9.80 for wire. Then a couple 3" posts or pole end scrap for gate stays on each end, probably in it for under $25 and rancher time to build them isn't worth anything, so way cheaper than tube gates. Tube gates can tend to walk off if public has access to them.
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I hope I never refer to my time or any one else's as not worth any thing.
 
Brute 23 said:
I hope I never refer to my time or any one else's as not worth any thing.
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It was kinda sarcasm. Some years it has been worth a lot and some years not much. And then to separate return to labor versus return to capital gets tricky if you want to try and figure it out. Most of my ranch work is done when I could be goofing off on recreational pursuits. Sometimes it is emergency work that cuts into time I could be billing an hourly rate to a client in excess of most ranch hands' daily rate.
 

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