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AmandaQ said:
I've been trying to stab them (the two big ones) with an ivermectin shot to get rid of lice while they are eating but they run away as soon as they feel the medicine start to go in. I think they are very nice in normal conditions but I am starting to worry about the sassy one (about 700 lbs) kicking me if I put her in a corner like I do the calf. (My calf is growing up being shot often and stuished in the corner. She is currently getting good at this from practice!) I also thought the chute was unnecessary until I really needed it!
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Neighbor had some really quiet cows. One had a sore foot so her boyfriend and another guy decided they could crowd the cow behind a gate in an old low roofed building. . . .
One guy got his arm broke and the other got to take a ride on a medevac helicopter. Broken ribs and a punctured lung.
Quiet cows are still big and can unintentionally hurt you.
Don’t let these guys tell you that you don’t have enough animals to justify a safe way to handle them when you need to.
I like a lot of folks here could give you a long list of people who got hurt or killed “just going out to work some cows “
 
Probably overkill for Amanda, but for others looking at chutes and corrals, check out Ferguson Cattle Equipment. When I bought the manual squeeze with the "Rancher Plus" corral package about 5 years ago it was total $6,800 delivered (the squeeze by itself was only $1,900 then, and has more features than I need). Like many things, prices have gone up a lot since 2020.
https://www.fergusonlivestockequipment.com/manual
 
AmandaQ said:
I've been trying to stab them (the two big ones) with an ivermectin shot to get rid of lice while they are eating but they run away as soon as they feel the medicine start to go in. I think they are very nice in normal conditions but I am starting to worry about the sassy one (about 700 lbs) kicking me if I put her in a corner like I do the calf. (My calf is growing up being shot often and stuished in the corner. She is currently getting good at this from practice!) I also thought the chute was unnecessary until I really needed it!
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Find a used dart gun on FB marketplace. It would be much cheaper and easier on you. Have you tried the extended syringe holder that's a couple feet long? If just giving wormer they sell the paintball type wormer guns or get the cheapest pour on you can fine and throw it out of a cup onto them.

A strong pipe alley with a headgate would be best but any of the above would work. We rarely catch anything to Dr it anymore.
 
@SBMF 2015
Is absolutely correct in the above statements. Just because it works for some of us, doesn't mean it will work for others. Never work with them alone if your going to do it that way!
If an animal decides to spook it goes bad in a hurry. Always be aware of where your body parts are at all times.

I'll 1000% agree a chute is the way to go. Always.

I've had good luck in the past with my junk. But I do have access to a portable chute now. I've also had a few "accidents" with my junk. Fortunately just some busted up panels and posts etc. Never been hurt. If it shows any sign of going south I run! 😆
 
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AmandaQ said:
Yes Travlr I did but I'm a suburban mother who installed a mailbox once and was very proud of that endeavor! My level of ability is very low! And my cows are very nice until it's time to stab them. I saw my big girl having a fit in the UGA chute/tilt table. (Her eyes almost bulged out of her head when her feet came off the ground.) I think cows that are used to being treated like cows are a little more comfortable being in a chute/alley/stanchion. But, having an idea of what I need means I could hire someone to help me build it. (On a side note, I was pulling wire yesterday to learn about electricity and REALLY struggled getting the protective coating off to install an electrical plug.) All of this needed to be when I was young and had upper body strength.
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I'm torn... On the one hand if you were close to me I'd come over and build you a three-place stanchion on a feed bunk so you could feed your animals and catch which ever one you want to catch, in a day of heavy coffee breaks and light hearted banter.... and on the other hand if you can put in a mailbox post and mount a mailbox the excuses you are using are self defeating because this is only harder by being two posts and a few boards. But it's your $1200 so maybe it's easier for you to make that money to be spent. A level of ability is found by doing, and I'd bet your ability exceeds your self confidence... until you do it.
As for your animals, they will often tolerate a lot when they are eating treats from a feed bin and their neck is squeezed to keep them stationary. Also, use a pour-on instead of an injection and the need to contain them isn't an issue.
 
Travlr said:
I'm torn... On the one hand if you were close to me I'd come over and build you a three-place stanchion on a feed bunk so you could feed your animals and catch which ever one you want to catch, in a day of heavy coffee breaks and light hearted banter.... and on the other hand if you can put in a mailbox post and mount a mailbox the excuses you are using are self defeating because this is only harder by being two posts and a few boards. But it's your $1200 so maybe it's easier for you to make that money to be spent. A level of ability is found by doing, and I'd bet your ability exceeds your self confidence... until you do it.
As for your animals, they will often tolerate a lot when they are eating treats from a feed bin and their neck is squeezed to keep them stationary. Also, use a pour-on instead of an injection and the need to contain them isn't an issue.
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You are welcome to visit the lovely town of Madison anytime you’d like! I have a very comfortable guest room and only one deaf mini Aussie to beg for treats. The $1200 chute sold but a very nice man makes them so I might need to drive over to him and ask more questions. He put me in touch months ago with someone that bought one nearby so I should call that man as well. Which pour on do you like? I’m dousing them all pretty regularly. Probably over doing it a bit but since I’m cuddling, I’d like the bugs and flies to stay away.
 
maybe its already been mentioned but what about some headlock stancions? I think they are a couple hundred bucks per headlock. i bought a 12 foot section for $100 at auction, see them fairly regularly. Bolt them in between two posts and feed your cows in them so they get used to them, then whenever you need to doctor them just lock them in so you can give a shot or whatever. 1746130671582.png

edit: I think this is what Travlr was describing...
 
My big girl stepped on me recently while she was jockeying for position at the food bowl. I was screaming in her ear "get off of me" but ended up having to push her off. I don't think she even realized she was standing on my toes. I came inside and of course my husband didn't hear me banshee screaming at all. I probably need a whistle around my neck, and steel toed shoes. My breathable light tennis shoes that I never usually wear in the pasture did me no favors that day!
MurraysMutts said:
@SBMF 2015
Is absolutely correct in the above statements. Just because it works for some of us, doesn't mean it will work for others. Never work with them alone if your going to do it that way!
If an animal decides to spook it goes bad in a hurry. Always be aware of where your body parts are at all times.

I'll 1000% agree a chute is the way to go. Always.

I've had good luck in the past with my junk. But I do have access to a portable chute now. I've also had a few "accidents" with my junk. Fortunately just some busted up panels and posts etc. Never been hurt. If it shows any sign of going south I run! 😆
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Named'em Tamed'em said:
My wife got trampled by a halterbroke first calf heifer. Dang Heeler got between the cow and her as I was pulling the calf. You never really know. Broken leg, bruised ribs, bleeding out the mouth. It was scary. She's so tough she was hunting elk 6 months later in Montana.
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I would like to avoid this fate if at all possible! I'm glad she is better now.
 
Lucky said:
Find a used dart gun on FB marketplace. It would be much cheaper and easier on you. Have you tried the extended syringe holder that's a couple feet long? If just giving wormer they sell the paintball type wormer guns or get the cheapest pour on you can fine and throw it out of a cup onto them.

A strong pipe alley with a headgate would be best but any of the above would work. We rarely catch anything to Dr it anymore.
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I have not tried an extended syringe holder and I don't know how it works. I will do some research and see if that can help! For the pour on, they usually let me do that. Not a huge fan of stuff running down their back but I'm persistent.
 
AmandaQ said:
I've been trying to stab them (the two big ones) with an ivermectin shot to get rid of lice while they are eating but they run away as soon as they feel the medicine start to go in.
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Don't make it so hard on yourself. For lice, a simple pour-on will do. I just dump some cubes, walk up to them and spray it down their back using a drench gun. One 'n done. I used Clean Up II this past winter, but Fly Ban also works for lice. And yes, I also use Fly Ban for flies and ticks. Here area couple of links. BTW I get my Fly Ban from a local Co-Op and get a free drench gun when I buy two 2.5-gallon jugs.

https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=e18cad5c-2319-404c-8608-ed104c730889
https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail...mart PLA (IBSM0001)&utm_term=2333369832849614
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I use a homemade version of the "slap shot" since I work with cattle alone without a head gate in the alley. There isn't the mass of the syringe wobbling around if they get moving around. Plus they don't try to look around as much since I'm up towards their head (outside the alley). Just another option to think about when you get somewhat set up.
 

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AmandaQ said:
You are welcome to visit the lovely town of Madison anytime you'd like! I have a very comfortable guest room and only one deaf mini Aussie to beg for treats. The $1200 chute sold but a very nice man makes them so I might need to drive over to him and ask more questions. He put me in touch months ago with someone that bought one nearby so I should call that man as well. Which pour on do you like? I'm dousing them all pretty regularly. Probably over doing it a bit but since I'm cuddling, I'd like the bugs and flies to stay away.
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I appreciate the invite but it's not very likely. I left Arkansas because of the seed ticks and the chiggers and am not inclined to experience them again.

I'm pretty sure Ivomec still has a pour on and I wouldn't use anything more than twice a year. You might do more harm than good and overuse won't kill anymore bugs.
 

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