Bottle calf! Some say I'm crazy...

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MurraysMutts said:
That'd be enough I reckon.

Can't believe what holstein babies are bringing. Last week a lil bull went for over 200!
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Hi Murray, since you are very nice, I decided to tell you this. Will likely get a lot of flack, but here goes anyway. I have seen quite a large number of photos of Holstein calves with underbite and have seen actual Holstein calves in past years here in our area of western Montana with an obvious underbite. Obvious is when the underbite can be seen without actually lifting the lips to examine the bite because the calf isn't able to completely close its mouth. I have attached a photo of a newborn Holstein calf in Wisconsin with an obvious underbite that was on an email sent to me just this morning, coincidentally, since you mentioned Holstein calves today. The calf in the photo is a "lil bull." All I am suggesting is that you check the bite before you buy one and the underbite on many calves is not obvious, like on the calf in the photo. The reason for my warning is that calves with an underbite often have internal health issues, like heart defects, lung inflammation, malformed thymus (the main immune system organ on a newborn mammal), digestive problems or other issues that can cause sudden mortality, as I have posted before. This information for you is based on necropsies I did of hundreds of dead newborn animals, including around 10 domestic calves and the piles of studies I read.
 

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Hi Murray, since you are very nice, I decided to tell you this. Will likely get a lot of flack, but here goes anyway. I have seen quite a large number of photos of Holstein calves with underbite and have seen actual Holstein calves in past years here in our area of western Montana with an obvious underbite. Obvious is when the underbite can be seen without actually lifting the lips to examine the bite because the calf isn't able to completely close its mouth. I have attached a photo of a newborn Holstein calf in Wisconsin with an obvious underbite that was on an email sent to me just this morning, coincidentally, since you mentioned Holstein calves today. The calf in the photo is a "lil bull." All I am suggesting is that you check the bite before you buy one and the underbite on many calves is not obvious, like on the calf in the photo. The reason for my warning is that calves with an underbite often have internal health issues, like heart defects, lung inflammation, malformed thymus (the main immune system organ on a newborn mammal), digestive problems or other issues that can cause sudden mortality, as I have posted before. This information for you is based on necropsies I did of hundreds of dead newborn animals, including around 10 domestic calves and the piles of studies I read.
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I try to stay completely away from holstein or jersey bottle calves. Here in Oklahoma, they often ain't worth messing with. Lots of people have issues with them, whether they are mishandled or whatever.

And they just don't bring any money even when they are grown up large. Takes a lot of inputs to get them there.
 
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Gonna be doing a bit a rearranging before long. I'll need to supplement Seven a bit I think. I'm so proud of her! Shes doing a GREAT job with her steer and adopted heifer. Now that I got Lil 'Nuf caught that'll help too. She would NOT leave my baby gurl alone! Always stealing the 2 new babies milk. Got that solved for now. 20220723_113638.jpg20220723_113641.jpg
 
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Geronimo seemed to not mind the rain. He needed a shower badly!! Stinky lil guy. Been in the trailer a week while he was waiting on me to rearrange. Horned heifer is with Brandy's 3 babies. She's settled down a little. But still very very leary of humans.
Tried to get another pic with his tongue out. But just couldn't time it right! He really is a big ol baby boy. He's thigh high on me at his back.
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Ope! Got him! We were trying to decide the best way to come get breakfast.
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And this is why we MUST wear shoes when feeding the bottle calf!
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Geronimo is still chug chug chugging...

Here's a snap of Sevens two babies. I'll get smore pics when I get everyone situated. Gonna have to do some shuffling. Seven is losing some condition due to drought and raising 2 calves. Haven't decided for sure what's gonna happen. But I'm leaning towards feeding her and her babies a bit. May pull one and give to Bessie with Geronimo. After I pull Bessies two February born calves. Decisions Decisions!
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Seven (the original Bottle calf) and her steer.
Geronimo and Sevens second calf are on Bessie. And they have been for 3 weeks. It's in the crossover thread above.
Seven was losing condition pretty bad. I stole her 2nd calf (had to rope her and drag her in the pen with Bessie)
Anyway!
I give Seven a handful of cubes every chance I get as I'm out of pens. She's coming back around without that 2nd calf nursing. And her calf will do better I'm sure.
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