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[gcreekrch]

I think we do it in a less complicated way down south of you, and it probably all averages out in the end. But I kind of admire your way of doing things if only that it means you don't shy away from doing it the hard way. I'm not so sure what that says about us though...

I’m not sure what you mean by hard way. My arithmetic is done in a way for me to understand. Fair shrink on cattle makes a fair transaction. Fair for both sides is never a bad deal.

 

[farmerjan]

With cattle going through the ring, and the average weight of them posted, the buyers can pay accordingly to how they think they will shrink which makes it totally fair. I fail to see where it is not fair to both parties. If they are fleshy and would normally have more shrink, buyers will nearly always pay less per pound to accommodate any excess shrink over leaner/harder cattle. That is up to the buyers at the sale to determine what is a fair price in their eyes and what their clients are looking for.
To each his own. I just have never had anyone represent a weight like you wrote it so I was naturally interested in your answer. That's the way you do it up there....

 

[Travlr]

I'm not sure what you mean by hard way. My arithmetic is done in a way for me to understand. Fair shrink on cattle makes a fair transaction. Fair for both sides is never a bad deal.

Well you are comfortable with it because that's the way you do it. Maybe you'd wonder what the hell we were doing down here when we do our adjustments as a buyer when we bid and never even consider the word shrink in the bid. And maybe we're just being lazy by not thinking about it. As long as everyone walks away comfortable...

 

[gcreekrch]

With cattle going through the ring, and the average weight of them posted, the buyers can pay accordingly to how they think they will shrink which makes it totally fair. I fail to see where it is not fair to both parties. If they are fleshy and would normally have more shrink, buyers will nearly always pay less per pound to accommodate any excess shrink over leaner/harder cattle. That is up to the buyers at the sale to determine what is a fair price in their eyes and what their clients are looking for.
To each his own. I just have never had anyone represent a weight like you wrote it so I was naturally interested in your answer. That's the way you do it up there....

I would hazard to guess it is done on your side of the border. Buyers of long haul cattle don’t like it when difference between bought weight at a yard or ranch exceeds 3% off truck at the feedlot.

 

[kenny thomas]

I would hazard to guess it is done on your side of the border. Buyers of long haul cattle don't like it when difference between bought weight at a yard or ranch exceeds 3% off truck at the feedlot.

They fuss more since the price is higher but a 4 to 6% loss is pretty common on a 1200 mile haul. 8% is not unheard of.

 

[simme]

My brother has participated/sold in video auctions before with a later pickup date. Definitely a slide in the process (for weight variations) and I think a shrink as well. I don't remember any more detail.

 

[gcreekrch]

They fuss more since the price is higher but a 4 to 6% loss is pretty common on a 1200 mile haul. 8% is not unheard of.

8% would definitely hear some screaming to make things right. Failure to do so would not be forgotten soon.

 

[kenny thomas]

8% would definitely hear some screaming to make things right. Failure to do so would not be forgotten soon.

I understand but yes i have seen it here. Most load lots here are figured with a 2% shrink now.

 

[gcreekrch]

I understand but yes i have seen it here. Most load lots here are figured with a 2% shrink now.

Overnight stand or minimum distance to scale part of the equation?

 

[Travlr]

They fuss more since the price is higher but a 4 to 6% loss is pretty common on a 1200 mile haul. 8% is not unheard of.

I know shrink occurs, but how quickly does the weight come back? I've never dealt with long haul cattle, so wondering.

I've seen cattle dealers keep their animals in corrals without water and feed them salted hay, and then turn on the water just before they go to the ring. I'd imagine a lot of shrink potential there.

 

[kenny thomas]

I know shrink occurs, but how quickly does the weight come back? I've never dealt with long haul cattle, so wondering.

I've seen cattle dealers keep their animals in corrals without water and feed them salted hay, and then turn on the water just before they go to the ring. I'd imagine a lot of shrink potential there.

Im pretty sure on weaned and preconditioned calves it comes back pretty quick.
I like buying calves that were brought in the night before. They have lost weight already and i can replace it fairly quickly. But the best thing is im not paying for that weight because they haven't been weighed yet.

 

[kenny thomas]

Overnight stand or minimum distance to scale part of the equation?

No and no. Well distance to scale is announced but rarely over 15 miles here. Some lots less.

 

[gcreekrch]

I know shrink occurs, but how quickly does the weight come back? I've never dealt with long haul cattle, so wondering.

I've seen cattle dealers keep their animals in corrals without water and feed them salted hay, and then turn on the water just before they go to the ring. I'd imagine a lot of shrink potential there.

A lot of price reduction if buyers know cattle too.

 

[kenny thomas]

I know shrink occurs, but how quickly does the weight come back? I've never dealt with long haul cattle, so wondering.

I've seen cattle dealers keep their animals in corrals without water and feed them salted hay, and then turn on the water just before they go to the ring. I'd imagine a lot of shrink potential there.

Salted and watered usually shows up pretty quickly. It results in an extended belly that just doesn't look right. Price will be discounted severely.

 

[Travlr]

Salted and watered usually shows up pretty quickly. It results in an extended belly that just doesn't look right. Price will be discounted severely.

Yeah, but they try it anyways and sometimes it works.

 

[wbvs58]

Our cattle are sold on a cents/kg basis and they all have to be at the saleyards by 7.00pm the night before. Water is available but no feed and selling starts about 7.30am. Most people are happy with this arrangement.

Ken

 

[Dave]

Lots of cattle sold here on the video. I have sold that way in the past. The contracts will call for a rate of shrink. Generally 2-4%. Most will say gather first thing in the morning and sort. Some are weighed on the truck. Probably fewer are weighed on the ranch scales.

 

[Stickney94]

I found some pics.




Over time, bigger cattle can stress panels enough to break uprights from bottom rail. We repair a few every winter.

The last load we had made we eliminated the 1x1 tubing and welded rail directly to slider ring. We have 90 of these panels now. They are a great tax write off that should appreciate in value if one keeps them in good condition.

Thanks! Much appreciated!

 

[gcreekrch]

Big steers. A few young bulls mixed in. The southwestern exotic was too cheap and thin to let pass.

 

[gcreekrch]

Beauty day for man and beast.