farmerjan
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cbcr":mq2v0dl2 said:farmerjan":mq2v0dl2 said:One of my dairies has used a fair amount of montb and said the cows were too fat, yet they milked well and had good butterfat and no health issues.
I have no experience with Fleckvieh. I would not use shorthorn but mostly because again, there is no market for the calves.
The cows were not too fat! That is one of the thing with the Fleckvieh, Montbeliarde and Normande, they are what we call strength breeds. They are not frail like the Holstein, they have more condition and strength. Most dairy producers think that a cow has to be sharp and angular in order to milk. Not the case with these breeds at all.
Like I have mentioned in other posts, the Fleckvieh and Montbeliarde can produce right with their Holstein herdmates with better components, breed back quicker and have fewer health issues plus they can stay in the herd longer. Also they are more feed efficient.
All of these thing can add up to more potential income for producers.
I agree as far as the montB crosses being a "strength" breed cross. He just said they were too fat. I totally disagreed but.... I hate the "dairyness" of all these dairy breeds we have in the U.S. Part of what happened to the guernseys, they kept breeding them to be "tall and dairy" and they lost the older coarser but tougher genetics of the breed. They were not supposed to be milk wagons, with no components... they were supposed to be a bit bigger and rawboned and have plenty of fat and protein and the beta-carotene in their milk that gave it the distinctive "golden guernsey" yellow.
I thought the MontB would be a great one to use on my dairy crosses, then keep the females for breeding and raising some beef cross calves to beef out. I am going to probably try some MontB semen on some of mine along with the limi semen I have. I bought a huge amount of older genetics in semen from a fellow on here and see no reason not to use it on some of the beef cows and some on a few of my jersey beef crosses.
I am not a holstein lover, and right now they aren't worth the powder to blow them to he//. Pound prices are in the 30s to 50s.; for feeders. Really bad and nothing looking any better down the road.