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My own beef with showing actually started in childhood. I exhibited poultry, all I could raise in town. Two things amazed me at shows. First, there were fowl that looked exactly like the beautiful breed paintings in The American Standard of Perfection. Second, their unthrifty shaky faced aspect...

Very interesting thread since I just did a fairly deep dive into Angus epds trying to see how many breeders have been trying to balance their cattle. I was surprised how many big, famous Angus breeders have awful estimates for such qualities as heifer pregnancy, calving ease, and feet (claw and...

Lee, could explain the The Agricultural Genome to Phenome Initiative?

His CEM stinks, 85th percentile. So he doesn't have it all, from a maternal standpoint. And his YW is only +43. I want growth up to +75 before I start worrying at all about cows getting too large.

Well. He is nice to look at . . . But I'd look right quick at his heifer pregnancy and maternal calving ease EPDs. I have been really disappointed in how many Angus, even reds, don't line up there. Maybe hp does not matter so much if you are crossbreeding. I don't know. But I want to stack...

I understand the management problem of a home-raised bull out of your best cow breeding his sisters. You kept all her heifers! But remember, they are HALF sisters. That is not very close inbreeding and to a minority of the herd.

Amen, brother. Your best old cow is adapted to your environment. I'd keep her bull calf, from natural service or a carefully selected AI bull. As for bugs, the saying in SE Ohio when I was farming there was that when you mix healthy livestock, you get some dead stock. We don't see all the...

I agree with your efforts! You surely own a few great cows. If you have more than a few commercial cows and take weaning weights and adjusted weights, you already know them. They have succeeded in your environment and weaned a high percentage of their own weight. They are probably better doers...

Bud Adams writes in his book A Florida Cattle Ranch about his Braford cow that produced calves for "over 26 years" and died on the range. He ran her picture too, a scrawny, horned beast. He writes that she was also blind, having lost her eyes "shortly after birth." She was never vaccinated or...

I like his plan, Dave. He probably breeds the best commercial females to Angus for replacements. Best being those that wean the greatest percentage of their body weight. All heifers go to Angus too, for calving ease and because they are out of the best cows. The rest of the commercial females go...

Was she a black baldie?

Well, Beefmasters can come in black without Angus being added, if you believe the grandson of the breed's founder. Which I do. I also believe others have added Angus. Anyway, the fellow who wrote wants a red, polled bull.

I read a story online recenlty about Lorenzo Lasater of Isa Beefmasters, TX, sold a half a dozen or so blacks that had arisen in his herd to a guy breeding black Beefmasters. Not sure if it was on his web site or not— http://www.isacattleco.com/ —but here is what he writes there in an article...

You might also consider going just down the road to Florida and getting one of the Adams Ranch Abeef bulls. Red and polled: 1/2 Adams Ranch Braford, 1/4 Red Angus, 1/4 Gelbvieh. This bull on an Angus base would give you cows to retain that are 5/8 Angus, 1/4 Braford, 1/8 Gelbvieh. Pretty...

For terminal or club calves, his numbers look fine. I'd sure be worried about keeping replacements if maternal females were my goal, which it is. He's forecast as poor on calving ease and stayability.

I remember reading in the book Crossbreeding Beef Cattle, I believe published by the University of Florida, that the Charolais-Jersey cross really nicks. The other I remember they said was special was Hereford x Holstein.

Good points about EPDs. Here are two others. EPDs are about what analysis indicates an animal will pass along. That's partly indicated by the individual's own performance but it's also and perhaps more based on ancestry and what offspring do. Second but related: how are other relatives are...

I don't know how much, if any, Sinclair Rito Legacy's epds changed since this thread was started. Maternal bulls are what I like. But his epds for the first two things I look at, heifer pregnancy and maternal calving ease, really poor. In the 90% and 95% percentile respectively. Hard to get much...

Yeah, I got confused because Shorthorn Assn. calls it British Maternal Index. Same thing, really. Anodyne looks nice but is below breed average for sustained cow fertility. Maybe not of concern in a crossbreeding program, but I wouldn't like it if raising purebreds.

Thanks, mrvictordomino. I guess you could say I am favorably inclined because I knew Mr. Jones! Actually I was only 4, when I went with my father one day when he went to buy a bull from him. I still have the old stock cane Mr. Jones gave me that day. Our farm at Leesburg was only about 20 miles...