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<blockquote data-quote="Brandonm2" data-source="post: 139150" data-attributes="member: 2095"><p>There are too many Angus bulls (and you could have substitituted Hereford, Simmental, Charolais, Limousin, Gert, or any other major breed) out there to EVER buy one with poor EPDs OR poor phenotype. IF he himself did not grow out into a desirable specimen for the breed then it is unlikely that he will ever live up to the performance promised by his numbers. On the other hand if he himself looks desirable; but his EPDs tell you that he is mediocre; then many of his calves will probably more closely resemble those lesser relations in his pedigree which produced those poor numbers. I know some bulls outperform their numbers; but I am not a gambler. I would not expect to buy a bull in the top 5% of the breed in multiple categories and looks like a national show winner for $1500-2500; but I do expect to get a bull which will improve my cows, phenotypically, genotypically, and dollars and cents wise at the salebarn. If a bull can't do all of the above get back in the truck and drive to another farm.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brandonm2, post: 139150, member: 2095"] There are too many Angus bulls (and you could have substitituted Hereford, Simmental, Charolais, Limousin, Gert, or any other major breed) out there to EVER buy one with poor EPDs OR poor phenotype. IF he himself did not grow out into a desirable specimen for the breed then it is unlikely that he will ever live up to the performance promised by his numbers. On the other hand if he himself looks desirable; but his EPDs tell you that he is mediocre; then many of his calves will probably more closely resemble those lesser relations in his pedigree which produced those poor numbers. I know some bulls outperform their numbers; but I am not a gambler. I would not expect to buy a bull in the top 5% of the breed in multiple categories and looks like a national show winner for $1500-2500; but I do expect to get a bull which will improve my cows, phenotypically, genotypically, and dollars and cents wise at the salebarn. If a bull can't do all of the above get back in the truck and drive to another farm. [/QUOTE]
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