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<blockquote data-quote="Aaron" data-source="post: 604327" data-attributes="member: 1682"><p>Just quickly looking at some records for comparison. </p><p></p><p>2002 calves. </p><p></p><p>106 lb bull...205 day 638 lbs</p><p>95 lb heifer...205 day 565 lbs</p><p></p><p>83 lb heifer...205 day 409 lbs</p><p>84 lbs heifer...205 day 466 lbs</p><p></p><p>I think a lot comes down to the cows. Our cows are long, small, thick and wide. Lots of room for big calves and can easily calve them out. The average mature cow weight is only around 1200 lbs. My neighbour has bred purebreds for decades and always points out that the quickest way to ruin a good cowherd is to breed for low birthweight calves. </p><p></p><p>You get these low birthweight calves that come without hassle, out of cows that couldn't handle bigger calves because there wasn't any selection for capacity or pelvic area. These cows are sold bred to a commercial guy and he wonders why these calves are weaning off so much lighter than his other calves and then starts to say bad things about the breed at the coffee shop. </p><p></p><p>Best thing a lot of guys could do is breed their cows to a bull that throws 90 lb calves and then sell off those cows that can't handle calving those calves out. This is under the assumption that the person doing this already has a relatively uniform herd that he is happy with so that he isn't accidently selecting for bigger framed cows when he is culling the ones that can't calve out bigger calves.</p><p>I've seen some of our small cows pop out 120 lb calves no problem, and seen a cow a frame score higher or better and 300 lbs heavier have a real time with it. So the big calves only for big cows doesn't hold much creedence with my philosophies. :cowboy:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aaron, post: 604327, member: 1682"] Just quickly looking at some records for comparison. 2002 calves. 106 lb bull...205 day 638 lbs 95 lb heifer...205 day 565 lbs 83 lb heifer...205 day 409 lbs 84 lbs heifer...205 day 466 lbs I think a lot comes down to the cows. Our cows are long, small, thick and wide. Lots of room for big calves and can easily calve them out. The average mature cow weight is only around 1200 lbs. My neighbour has bred purebreds for decades and always points out that the quickest way to ruin a good cowherd is to breed for low birthweight calves. You get these low birthweight calves that come without hassle, out of cows that couldn't handle bigger calves because there wasn't any selection for capacity or pelvic area. These cows are sold bred to a commercial guy and he wonders why these calves are weaning off so much lighter than his other calves and then starts to say bad things about the breed at the coffee shop. Best thing a lot of guys could do is breed their cows to a bull that throws 90 lb calves and then sell off those cows that can't handle calving those calves out. This is under the assumption that the person doing this already has a relatively uniform herd that he is happy with so that he isn't accidently selecting for bigger framed cows when he is culling the ones that can't calve out bigger calves. I've seen some of our small cows pop out 120 lb calves no problem, and seen a cow a frame score higher or better and 300 lbs heavier have a real time with it. So the big calves only for big cows doesn't hold much creedence with my philosophies. :cowboy: [/QUOTE]
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