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<blockquote data-quote="Buck Randall" data-source="post: 1656191" data-attributes="member: 38590"><p>Medical ethics have come a long way since those days. It was not all that long ago that physicians were trained using stolen cadavers or the bodies of paupers without even a thought as to the wishes of the deceased. The notion that a person's permission should be required before enrolling them in medical or scientific research is relatively recent. That's not to excuse those practices of the past, they were wrong, but we can't undo what's already happened. If we were to throw out every advancement that was made under conditions we consider unacceptable today, we'd be back in the stone age. </p><p></p><p>The technology to work with undifferentiated stem cells like those found in the placenta or amnion didn't exist at the time these cell lines were cultured. If you wanted to grow lung cells or liver cells, you had to start with lung or liver cells. Today scientists can take a placental stem cell and stimulate it to grow into a desired tissue, making the old techniques obsolete.</p><p></p><p>The idea that anyone would encourage or promote abortion in order to use fetal tissue for research is insane. Hundreds of thousands of abortions are performed every year in this country, in addition to the 10-20% of pregnancies that are estimated to end in miscarriage. The abortion rate could drop to 0 overnight and there would still be more fetal tissue available than anyone could ever dream of using for research. There's absolutely no practical reason for anyone to encourage it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Buck Randall, post: 1656191, member: 38590"] Medical ethics have come a long way since those days. It was not all that long ago that physicians were trained using stolen cadavers or the bodies of paupers without even a thought as to the wishes of the deceased. The notion that a person's permission should be required before enrolling them in medical or scientific research is relatively recent. That's not to excuse those practices of the past, they were wrong, but we can't undo what's already happened. If we were to throw out every advancement that was made under conditions we consider unacceptable today, we'd be back in the stone age. The technology to work with undifferentiated stem cells like those found in the placenta or amnion didn't exist at the time these cell lines were cultured. If you wanted to grow lung cells or liver cells, you had to start with lung or liver cells. Today scientists can take a placental stem cell and stimulate it to grow into a desired tissue, making the old techniques obsolete. The idea that anyone would encourage or promote abortion in order to use fetal tissue for research is insane. Hundreds of thousands of abortions are performed every year in this country, in addition to the 10-20% of pregnancies that are estimated to end in miscarriage. The abortion rate could drop to 0 overnight and there would still be more fetal tissue available than anyone could ever dream of using for research. There's absolutely no practical reason for anyone to encourage it. [/QUOTE]
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