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<blockquote data-quote="Alberta farmer" data-source="post: 677769" data-attributes="member: 8978"><p>How do you know if you are buying a quality bull? Is he really genetically superior or are you buying the feed bucket?</p><p>The purebred business is completely different from the real world of commercial production. The purebred breeder needs to play the game if he wants to make some money.</p><p>About twenty years ago we got sick of bulls that cost a lot, but were always having problems. We picked out what we thought were our ten top cows and AI'd them to an ABS bull that had the numbers we wanted. I think we got 8 calves...three bulls, five heifers. We kept the bull calf we thought was best. He never got fed one drop of grain and ran out with the cows all winter. He didn't do much the first year breeding and looked like hell compared to a couple of high priced yearlings we had in with the cows. The next year he bred more cows than any other bull and his calves weighed up good. His feet and disposition were excellent. We used him one more year and sold him. He weighed up fairly good. </p><p>We kept doing that more and more until we got to the point we weren't buying any bulls. Our calf weights actually increased and our cows definitely improved for the traits we felt were important. We experimented with cross bred bulls and all the drivel about consistancy costing you money went out the door!</p><p>About four years ago I got sick of AI'ing cows(other business committments). A guy just 6 miles from me had a purebred Angus herd that were about the best looking cows I had ever seen and he raised them tough on banked grass, swath grazing etc....definitely not a luxury resort for cows, but just like a good tough commercial operation! Now I buy a couple of bull calves right off the cow every year from him and it has worked out well....and I probably pay about the same as he sells his yearlings for!</p><p>I realize the purebred guys have to make a living and I know how the game is played. Most of them are quite good at making a silk purse out of a sows ear! The only thing that really counts though for the commercial guy is this: A cow that can raise a calf every year that pushes the scales down, breeds back</p><p>on time, doesn't require ANY help and does it on a minimum of inputs. That is just a fact.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alberta farmer, post: 677769, member: 8978"] How do you know if you are buying a quality bull? Is he really genetically superior or are you buying the feed bucket? The purebred business is completely different from the real world of commercial production. The purebred breeder needs to play the game if he wants to make some money. About twenty years ago we got sick of bulls that cost a lot, but were always having problems. We picked out what we thought were our ten top cows and AI'd them to an ABS bull that had the numbers we wanted. I think we got 8 calves...three bulls, five heifers. We kept the bull calf we thought was best. He never got fed one drop of grain and ran out with the cows all winter. He didn't do much the first year breeding and looked like hell compared to a couple of high priced yearlings we had in with the cows. The next year he bred more cows than any other bull and his calves weighed up good. His feet and disposition were excellent. We used him one more year and sold him. He weighed up fairly good. We kept doing that more and more until we got to the point we weren't buying any bulls. Our calf weights actually increased and our cows definitely improved for the traits we felt were important. We experimented with cross bred bulls and all the drivel about consistancy costing you money went out the door! About four years ago I got sick of AI'ing cows(other business committments). A guy just 6 miles from me had a purebred Angus herd that were about the best looking cows I had ever seen and he raised them tough on banked grass, swath grazing etc....definitely not a luxury resort for cows, but just like a good tough commercial operation! Now I buy a couple of bull calves right off the cow every year from him and it has worked out well....and I probably pay about the same as he sells his yearlings for! I realize the purebred guys have to make a living and I know how the game is played. Most of them are quite good at making a silk purse out of a sows ear! The only thing that really counts though for the commercial guy is this: A cow that can raise a calf every year that pushes the scales down, breeds back on time, doesn't require ANY help and does it on a minimum of inputs. That is just a fact. [/QUOTE]
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