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<blockquote data-quote="Jeanne - Simme Valley" data-source="post: 116322" data-attributes="member: 968"><p>Itsawayoflife is quite acurate with his/her description of the calves. The heifer is better than the bull, showing more depth & flank. They look very similar to Gelvieh cattle in my area, needing more muscling in the rear quarters, but have a better front end than many.</p><p>Actually, the Gelvieh breed had the same genetic base as the Simmental over in Europe. When the Simmental Assn. was started, they chose different "strains" like Fleckvieh, Pie Rouge, Montbeliards, Abondance & Pezzata Rosa. They were considered "Simmentals" here in America. The forefathers - for whatever reason chose NOT to accept Gelbvieh as a Simmental. I was always told it was because of disposition & udder quality.</p><p>Anyway, they came over as their own breed. At first, I thought, "we may be sorry we didn't include them as Simmentals, because now they are our competition as a maternal breed". Well, after all these years, they just don't have the genetic base here to give you much to pick from - meaning "bull power" through AI. I think there are some really good ones out there, just not enough of them.</p><p>If you have a good temperament herd and you're happy with them, just keep picking bulls to meet your desires for your herd.</p><p>Looks like you have a good start on the halter breaking!!</p><p>Good luck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeanne - Simme Valley, post: 116322, member: 968"] Itsawayoflife is quite acurate with his/her description of the calves. The heifer is better than the bull, showing more depth & flank. They look very similar to Gelvieh cattle in my area, needing more muscling in the rear quarters, but have a better front end than many. Actually, the Gelvieh breed had the same genetic base as the Simmental over in Europe. When the Simmental Assn. was started, they chose different "strains" like Fleckvieh, Pie Rouge, Montbeliards, Abondance & Pezzata Rosa. They were considered "Simmentals" here in America. The forefathers - for whatever reason chose NOT to accept Gelbvieh as a Simmental. I was always told it was because of disposition & udder quality. Anyway, they came over as their own breed. At first, I thought, "we may be sorry we didn't include them as Simmentals, because now they are our competition as a maternal breed". Well, after all these years, they just don't have the genetic base here to give you much to pick from - meaning "bull power" through AI. I think there are some really good ones out there, just not enough of them. If you have a good temperament herd and you're happy with them, just keep picking bulls to meet your desires for your herd. Looks like you have a good start on the halter breaking!! Good luck. [/QUOTE]
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