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why are herefords so thin compared to "old time" cattle
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<blockquote data-quote="smnherf" data-source="post: 1329525" data-attributes="member: 3235"><p>A simple google search soon after I read his posts showed me all I need to know. This is simply a marketing ploy with the differentiation point of being more pure than the next guy but the definition of purity is in the eye of the beholder. They have gone back and used old Hereford lines from previous decades and they claim they are pure, but we have no evidence to prove that. For instance, are the Hereford gene pools from the 1800's more pure than the 1920's or the 1940's or the 1960's or the 1980s? Cotmore may have resurrected old lines from the 1940's 1950's or 60's but I will guarantee you that in in the early 1900's bulls did jump fences, and bred cows that they weren't supposed. There was no DNA or blood typing back then. </p><p></p><p>Traditional Herefords and line breeding seem to be the buzz words by many today, but the bottom line is if they cant perform in the feedlot, be acceptable on the rail, convert feed efficiency, reproduce efficiently, and have good eyes, feet, fleshing ability and hardiness, then all you have is a line bred traditional Hereford that will be a novelty in a future petting zoo. I have used some old lines of Hereford over the years, but there are also many lines that needed to be left for extinction for the breeds sake.</p><p></p><p>In my book, Cotmore violated one of the biggest rules of salesmanship and that was to not bad mouth your competition. On top of that he gave no evidence that he has better Herefords and we would be better off using his product than what we have. The purity banner has no more validity than a show ribbon winner or a set of blue box epd numbers as a marketing ploy. Snake oil is still snake oil. None of those will improve the Herefords acceptability and improve our market share into the commercial cattle sector. That is all that matters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smnherf, post: 1329525, member: 3235"] A simple google search soon after I read his posts showed me all I need to know. This is simply a marketing ploy with the differentiation point of being more pure than the next guy but the definition of purity is in the eye of the beholder. They have gone back and used old Hereford lines from previous decades and they claim they are pure, but we have no evidence to prove that. For instance, are the Hereford gene pools from the 1800's more pure than the 1920's or the 1940's or the 1960's or the 1980s? Cotmore may have resurrected old lines from the 1940's 1950's or 60's but I will guarantee you that in in the early 1900's bulls did jump fences, and bred cows that they weren't supposed. There was no DNA or blood typing back then. Traditional Herefords and line breeding seem to be the buzz words by many today, but the bottom line is if they cant perform in the feedlot, be acceptable on the rail, convert feed efficiency, reproduce efficiently, and have good eyes, feet, fleshing ability and hardiness, then all you have is a line bred traditional Hereford that will be a novelty in a future petting zoo. I have used some old lines of Hereford over the years, but there are also many lines that needed to be left for extinction for the breeds sake. In my book, Cotmore violated one of the biggest rules of salesmanship and that was to not bad mouth your competition. On top of that he gave no evidence that he has better Herefords and we would be better off using his product than what we have. The purity banner has no more validity than a show ribbon winner or a set of blue box epd numbers as a marketing ploy. Snake oil is still snake oil. None of those will improve the Herefords acceptability and improve our market share into the commercial cattle sector. That is all that matters. [/QUOTE]
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