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<blockquote data-quote="Nesikep" data-source="post: 1427041" data-attributes="member: 9096"><p>Well, I thought it would be a good time to update this thread.. I'm probably going to be selling him this weekend</p><p>Current EPD's are here <a href="https://cla.digitalbeef.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=_animal&file=_animal&animal_registration=CXM4074065" target="_blank">https://cla.digitalbeef.com/modules.php ... CXM4074065</a></p><p>One thing I find interesting is he has better than average CED despite the higher than average BW. I don't put a whole lot of importance on the YW and WW since I know the herd he comes from is a low-input herd, and neither them, nor their customers would be graining them.. I am pretty happy with the way the calves have been growing.</p><p></p><p>Now for the quality of his daughters? I'd call them average.. I have a few that are looking like they stand out from the rest, but that is because of exceptional dams. For the most part, My concerns I brought up a while back were justified, he worked very well with the GV cross cows, but the SH's without GV never really were much to look at.. Lots of frame, but rather 2 dimensional... Add some GV influence and then you have much better. The two better daughters I have that have calves are raising respectable calves for first timers, they definitely both have potential to raise whoppers even if they don't do it on the first attempt.</p><p></p><p>Also, he wasn't a heifer bull.. my first year I needed to use a calf puller on 2 of the 4 heifers, however I never needed to pull one from any *cow*. (I stopped using him on heifers after that). Udders, they look alright, perhaps the teats are a little long, but not problematic by any stretch of the imagination, udder suspension, etc is all very good.. Of the 3 daughters of his that have calved, the two "good" ones didn't need any help calving, while the one I didn't like anyhow did need some help.. she's going on a truck this fall though.</p><p>Here are two promising looking yearling daughters of his, Yotta (From Mega), and Sigma (from Chroma)</p><p></p><p>Yotta is the stouter type of animal, certainly will mature a full frame score less than Sigma</p><p><a href="https://postimg.org/image/6701j0lhf/" target="_blank"><img src="https://s13.postimg.org/6701j0lhf/19074573_10154444547511790_1045289023_o.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Sigma has the legs and pretty good length, both ought to make good cows, I'll tell you more in a year <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p><a href="https://postimg.org/image/vr2bpg6v7/" target="_blank"><img src="https://s13.postimg.org/vr2bpg6v7/19048638_10154444811946790_1048075129_o.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>You might remember this steer, probably one of the nicest I've ever raised, though I think the dam should take at least 75% of the credit there, since her heifer this year is absolutely outstanding but from my homeraised bull.. so she's really contributing to it.</p><p><a href="https://postimg.org/image/y32f6y2cx/" target="_blank"><img src="https://s16.postimg.org/y32f6y2cx/20150617_100907sm.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Docility on him and his calves has been great.. this year just about every calf is a pest that wants attention, Sigma and Yotta are real sweeties, they both just want to hang out with you just for company. He likes his attention as well, a little back scratch is very welcome... He's a lousy fighter though, My homeraised bull whoops his arse at 3 years old (2 years younger) and about 500lb weight disadvantage</p><p></p><p>I'll work on getting a better picture of him, but here he is stuck on babysitting duty by the looks of it</p><p><a href="https://postimg.org/image/i0hseqz5n/" target="_blank"><img src="https://s9.postimg.org/i0hseqz5n/20170531_185814s.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>If my management was different and I could tolerate having a snotty bull around, I think the 2Z bull would have been more suited for the herd of shorthorn cows, being a little stouter and less framey.. On the other hand, I live to write this!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nesikep, post: 1427041, member: 9096"] Well, I thought it would be a good time to update this thread.. I'm probably going to be selling him this weekend Current EPD's are here [url=https://cla.digitalbeef.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=_animal&file=_animal&animal_registration=CXM4074065]https://cla.digitalbeef.com/modules.php ... CXM4074065[/url] One thing I find interesting is he has better than average CED despite the higher than average BW. I don't put a whole lot of importance on the YW and WW since I know the herd he comes from is a low-input herd, and neither them, nor their customers would be graining them.. I am pretty happy with the way the calves have been growing. Now for the quality of his daughters? I'd call them average.. I have a few that are looking like they stand out from the rest, but that is because of exceptional dams. For the most part, My concerns I brought up a while back were justified, he worked very well with the GV cross cows, but the SH's without GV never really were much to look at.. Lots of frame, but rather 2 dimensional... Add some GV influence and then you have much better. The two better daughters I have that have calves are raising respectable calves for first timers, they definitely both have potential to raise whoppers even if they don't do it on the first attempt. Also, he wasn't a heifer bull.. my first year I needed to use a calf puller on 2 of the 4 heifers, however I never needed to pull one from any *cow*. (I stopped using him on heifers after that). Udders, they look alright, perhaps the teats are a little long, but not problematic by any stretch of the imagination, udder suspension, etc is all very good.. Of the 3 daughters of his that have calved, the two "good" ones didn't need any help calving, while the one I didn't like anyhow did need some help.. she's going on a truck this fall though. Here are two promising looking yearling daughters of his, Yotta (From Mega), and Sigma (from Chroma) Yotta is the stouter type of animal, certainly will mature a full frame score less than Sigma [url=https://postimg.org/image/6701j0lhf/][img]https://s13.postimg.org/6701j0lhf/19074573_10154444547511790_1045289023_o.jpg[/img][/url] Sigma has the legs and pretty good length, both ought to make good cows, I'll tell you more in a year :) [url=https://postimg.org/image/vr2bpg6v7/][img]https://s13.postimg.org/vr2bpg6v7/19048638_10154444811946790_1048075129_o.jpg[/img][/url] You might remember this steer, probably one of the nicest I've ever raised, though I think the dam should take at least 75% of the credit there, since her heifer this year is absolutely outstanding but from my homeraised bull.. so she's really contributing to it. [url=https://postimg.org/image/y32f6y2cx/][img]https://s16.postimg.org/y32f6y2cx/20150617_100907sm.jpg[/img][/url] Docility on him and his calves has been great.. this year just about every calf is a pest that wants attention, Sigma and Yotta are real sweeties, they both just want to hang out with you just for company. He likes his attention as well, a little back scratch is very welcome... He's a lousy fighter though, My homeraised bull whoops his arse at 3 years old (2 years younger) and about 500lb weight disadvantage I'll work on getting a better picture of him, but here he is stuck on babysitting duty by the looks of it [url=https://postimg.org/image/i0hseqz5n/][img]https://s9.postimg.org/i0hseqz5n/20170531_185814s.jpg[/img][/url] If my management was different and I could tolerate having a snotty bull around, I think the 2Z bull would have been more suited for the herd of shorthorn cows, being a little stouter and less framey.. On the other hand, I live to write this! [/QUOTE]
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