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<blockquote data-quote="504RP" data-source="post: 1641082" data-attributes="member: 40335"><p>I agree with Little Joe. You can't continue to take away from land and not put back the nutrients that was taken from it.</p><p></p><p>You won't have no problem finding someone to cut it. Probably for almost any deal you offer them. </p><p></p><p>You need to keep in mind though. Every ton of forage per acre that leaves your pasture wether it be through grazing, cutting for hay etc...., is changing the ph on that land.</p><p></p><p>And it will cost you alot of money to get that ph level back to where it has to be to grow good quality hay again on it. Some of the things that might have to be added varies depending on what your soil sample will call for. That could be lime, pot ash things like that.</p><p></p><p>Alot of people seem to think fertilizer is going to fix ph of the soil. All fertilizer is going to do is make whatever is growing grow more of. If your ph is way off, the land had already been stripped of its nutrients etc...., and is to the point of growing stuff that will grow in poor soil like broomsedge, rag weed, and other weeds. All adding fertlizer is going to do is make it grow more of worthless weeds.</p><p></p><p>Yes letting someone cut and bale it will make it look good and you won't have any trouble finding someone to cut it for hay or run cattle on it to graze. Until you have nothing but a field full of brooms edge and weeds. Then if you still keep it looking clean your going to be looking at 65 to $85 an hour to get it brush hogged.</p><p></p><p>50 years ago you didn't have worry as much with depleting pastures of their nutrients because the average farmers couldn't remove the tonnage of hay from hay fields that they do this day and time. Because nobody had round balers to put up the stock piles of hay for winter that they can this day and time. So they couldn't keep as many cattle on average either as we do today.</p><p></p><p>So they in general didn't deplete the soil of its nutrients no where near as fast as we do today.</p><p></p><p>So letting people cut your hay on the shares is probably going to benifit the person cutting it on the shares more in the long run than it is you as the land owner.</p><p></p><p>You want to make it fair for the both of you. Get your soil samples done every year. See what has to be added. Split the cost on adding what the land needs to keep it in shape and go from there as to how the two of you should split any profit off of the hay.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="504RP, post: 1641082, member: 40335"] I agree with Little Joe. You can't continue to take away from land and not put back the nutrients that was taken from it. You won't have no problem finding someone to cut it. Probably for almost any deal you offer them. You need to keep in mind though. Every ton of forage per acre that leaves your pasture wether it be through grazing, cutting for hay etc...., is changing the ph on that land. And it will cost you alot of money to get that ph level back to where it has to be to grow good quality hay again on it. Some of the things that might have to be added varies depending on what your soil sample will call for. That could be lime, pot ash things like that. Alot of people seem to think fertilizer is going to fix ph of the soil. All fertilizer is going to do is make whatever is growing grow more of. If your ph is way off, the land had already been stripped of its nutrients etc...., and is to the point of growing stuff that will grow in poor soil like broomsedge, rag weed, and other weeds. All adding fertlizer is going to do is make it grow more of worthless weeds. Yes letting someone cut and bale it will make it look good and you won't have any trouble finding someone to cut it for hay or run cattle on it to graze. Until you have nothing but a field full of brooms edge and weeds. Then if you still keep it looking clean your going to be looking at 65 to $85 an hour to get it brush hogged. 50 years ago you didn't have worry as much with depleting pastures of their nutrients because the average farmers couldn't remove the tonnage of hay from hay fields that they do this day and time. Because nobody had round balers to put up the stock piles of hay for winter that they can this day and time. So they couldn't keep as many cattle on average either as we do today. So they in general didn't deplete the soil of its nutrients no where near as fast as we do today. So letting people cut your hay on the shares is probably going to benifit the person cutting it on the shares more in the long run than it is you as the land owner. You want to make it fair for the both of you. Get your soil samples done every year. See what has to be added. Split the cost on adding what the land needs to keep it in shape and go from there as to how the two of you should split any profit off of the hay. [/QUOTE]
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