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<blockquote data-quote="medicinewoman" data-source="post: 920218" data-attributes="member: 18249"><p>Folks please understand I am not being argumentative here, I am simply trying to expose those beginners here to all the information they may need to make good management decisions.</p><p>I am not saying anyone is wrong or right in their management decisions, I am simply pointing out that one size does not fit all in the cattle business, no more then it does in any other business.</p><p>And that for every decision you make, you most likely will create another problem that will cause you to make/change another decision . </p><p>In other words: for every action there is a reaction that must be dealt with.</p><p></p><p>Now what you all are saying is basically correct, but it has become what is know as old school learning. </p><p>What I am talking about is what has become know as new school learning.</p><p>Neither of which is considered right or wrong as each is based on the other.</p><p>For example,</p><p>Old school learning is "the heat cycle of a cow is 23 days and the gestation period is 283 days.</p><p>New school learning is that those two statements are correct, but there are variances to both numbers for many reasons. They are no longer carved in stone and should be considered a rule of thumb and not an absolute.</p><p></p><p>Some of the papers I have read recently have even gone as far to say the heat cycle is 25 days and gestation is 285 days.</p><p>The reasons given for this variable were the differences in breeds and cross breeding of the cows studied and newer genetics within those particular breeds.</p><p></p><p>Now again, I am not disagreeing with anyone's management decisions/practices but I would like to point out that I have not seen a breeding/calving program posted that fully maximizes a cows potential.</p><p></p><p>A cows full potential, and therefore full profit potential, is to produce 1 calf per colander/fiscal year for 4 years and on or about the 5 year produce 2 calves in that same calendar/fiscal year, not including any twins.</p><p></p><p>Now if that is your goal, you will have to pay close attention to your cow's open time which is why you will need to know all of the variables to help you control all of your open times.</p><p>And to do that you will have to change some of your other management decisions previously made.</p><p>You will have to go to a year round breeding/calving season to reduce your open times.</p><p></p><p>Yes I fully understand you can probably give me a 100 reasons why this should not be done but I can also give you a 100 reasons why it should, so lets not go there and just agree on one size does not fit all.</p><p></p><p>I am meanly pointing out the full potential of a cow at the upper most end of the spectrum and not criticizing anyone for accepting something less while emphasizing the importance of controlling your open time.</p><p>MW</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="medicinewoman, post: 920218, member: 18249"] Folks please understand I am not being argumentative here, I am simply trying to expose those beginners here to all the information they may need to make good management decisions. I am not saying anyone is wrong or right in their management decisions, I am simply pointing out that one size does not fit all in the cattle business, no more then it does in any other business. And that for every decision you make, you most likely will create another problem that will cause you to make/change another decision . In other words: for every action there is a reaction that must be dealt with. Now what you all are saying is basically correct, but it has become what is know as old school learning. What I am talking about is what has become know as new school learning. Neither of which is considered right or wrong as each is based on the other. For example, Old school learning is “the heat cycle of a cow is 23 days and the gestation period is 283 days. New school learning is that those two statements are correct, but there are variances to both numbers for many reasons. They are no longer carved in stone and should be considered a rule of thumb and not an absolute. Some of the papers I have read recently have even gone as far to say the heat cycle is 25 days and gestation is 285 days. The reasons given for this variable were the differences in breeds and cross breeding of the cows studied and newer genetics within those particular breeds. Now again, I am not disagreeing with anyone’s management decisions/practices but I would like to point out that I have not seen a breeding/calving program posted that fully maximizes a cows potential. A cows full potential, and therefore full profit potential, is to produce 1 calf per colander/fiscal year for 4 years and on or about the 5 year produce 2 calves in that same calendar/fiscal year, not including any twins. Now if that is your goal, you will have to pay close attention to your cow’s open time which is why you will need to know all of the variables to help you control all of your open times. And to do that you will have to change some of your other management decisions previously made. You will have to go to a year round breeding/calving season to reduce your open times. Yes I fully understand you can probably give me a 100 reasons why this should not be done but I can also give you a 100 reasons why it should, so lets not go there and just agree on one size does not fit all. I am meanly pointing out the full potential of a cow at the upper most end of the spectrum and not criticizing anyone for accepting something less while emphasizing the importance of controlling your open time. MW [/QUOTE]
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