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<blockquote data-quote="SRBeef" data-source="post: 667775" data-attributes="member: 7509"><p>Bez, Thanks for the reply.</p><p></p><p>We are in quite different situations.</p><p></p><p>With the advice of a knowledgeable poster here, I have worked into a system which seems to be working well on my small land base. At most I can only manage two separate groups and even that is only for part of the year.</p><p></p><p>I split the herd at weaning time (Nov 1) into two groups, cows, heifers, steers, bull in one group (in corn stalks) and weaned calves in the other group. After 60 days apart and with calving approaching, I put the cows and pregnant heifers back with the heifer calves and separate the weaned steer calves back to being with the bull and yearling steers.</p><p></p><p>It really was not that hard to move the groups as they all come in and out of the corral pretty readily. just flip gates one way or another.</p><p></p><p>I remember one of the weaned heifer calves that went up to her mama when I put them back together and tried for a drink but mom gave a quick little kick and that was the end of that. Looked like the cow had pretty well dried up by then anyway.</p><p></p><p>So back to my bull question. You then keep the kept bulls away from siblings. If I keep a bull calf from T21, this year could I use the bull calf on the whole herd next year, including some retained heifers?</p><p></p><p>The other option is to keep my current bull after this breeding season and he would be breeding some of his daughters, in addition to the rest of the unrelated cows, as part of the herd in summer 2010.</p><p></p><p>There is no way I can mess with having two bulls. I questioned my sanity when I decided to buy one!</p><p></p><p>Thanks for any advice.</p><p></p><p>Jim</p><p></p><p>on edit: after thinking about this post, I believe I will just sell my bull after breeding season this summer if I can and buy a new one next spring. Just getting a bit complex for a steel guy who is not really into genetics... I will also see if there is someone in the area who would like this bull calf in the fall or I'll steer him and harvest off of grazed corn over the winter. Thanks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SRBeef, post: 667775, member: 7509"] Bez, Thanks for the reply. We are in quite different situations. With the advice of a knowledgeable poster here, I have worked into a system which seems to be working well on my small land base. At most I can only manage two separate groups and even that is only for part of the year. I split the herd at weaning time (Nov 1) into two groups, cows, heifers, steers, bull in one group (in corn stalks) and weaned calves in the other group. After 60 days apart and with calving approaching, I put the cows and pregnant heifers back with the heifer calves and separate the weaned steer calves back to being with the bull and yearling steers. It really was not that hard to move the groups as they all come in and out of the corral pretty readily. just flip gates one way or another. I remember one of the weaned heifer calves that went up to her mama when I put them back together and tried for a drink but mom gave a quick little kick and that was the end of that. Looked like the cow had pretty well dried up by then anyway. So back to my bull question. You then keep the kept bulls away from siblings. If I keep a bull calf from T21, this year could I use the bull calf on the whole herd next year, including some retained heifers? The other option is to keep my current bull after this breeding season and he would be breeding some of his daughters, in addition to the rest of the unrelated cows, as part of the herd in summer 2010. There is no way I can mess with having two bulls. I questioned my sanity when I decided to buy one! Thanks for any advice. Jim on edit: after thinking about this post, I believe I will just sell my bull after breeding season this summer if I can and buy a new one next spring. Just getting a bit complex for a steel guy who is not really into genetics... I will also see if there is someone in the area who would like this bull calf in the fall or I'll steer him and harvest off of grazed corn over the winter. Thanks. [/QUOTE]
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