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<blockquote data-quote="Supa Dexta" data-source="post: 1222262" data-attributes="member: 23321"><p>Another thing I notice is people that have been grinding away for years, doing the best they can, trying to get better every year. They pay close attention to their animals health and breeding, They dont over do the land, they don't let the animals suffer at all. And then someone comes along and buys up a bunch of junk cows, loads a rented farm to the hills, and goes and makes a bunch of money in the short term and thinks they're a big cattleman now. They must know better, they have more cows. Meanwhile, they have a terrible death loss, the animals that do live to sale as sub par.. But if they end goal is money. I guess they win since they made more overall. </p><p></p><p>Bringing that back to bulls, as long as they can throw a few ok bulls in to get the job done, and the calves aren't total losers, they still brought good dollars last fall. Three 2000 dollar bulls to your 1 6k bull. </p><p></p><p>One of my bulls (simang) was actually saved from slaughter coming off test because of a wart on his pecker, he was bought as a spare to cover some animals on another pasture after we treated the wart. He's actually proved himself and outlasted my higher dollar purebreds. He cost me 1300 dollars. But had he made that sale, he would have easily been several thousand a few years ago</p><p></p><p>And you're actually seeing discounts now for calves that grow too good.. If you've got them too fleshy the buyers are hitting you with a penalty because you raised TOO good of animals. </p><p></p><p>I had some just ok calves this year that weaned early and at just over 600lbs brought 2.85. Around $1740 a piece! Turns out some other guys held their calves since that time, fed well all winter and are now 900lbs and are now getting about 1.80 - just over $1600 for an animal 300lbs heavier. Show me where it pays to get real heavy calves. Could I have eeked out a touch more on slightly heavier calves back at weaning time? Yes, but just barely and not nearly enough to cover high end bulls or pay for creep or anything.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Supa Dexta, post: 1222262, member: 23321"] Another thing I notice is people that have been grinding away for years, doing the best they can, trying to get better every year. They pay close attention to their animals health and breeding, They dont over do the land, they don't let the animals suffer at all. And then someone comes along and buys up a bunch of junk cows, loads a rented farm to the hills, and goes and makes a bunch of money in the short term and thinks they're a big cattleman now. They must know better, they have more cows. Meanwhile, they have a terrible death loss, the animals that do live to sale as sub par.. But if they end goal is money. I guess they win since they made more overall. Bringing that back to bulls, as long as they can throw a few ok bulls in to get the job done, and the calves aren't total losers, they still brought good dollars last fall. Three 2000 dollar bulls to your 1 6k bull. One of my bulls (simang) was actually saved from slaughter coming off test because of a wart on his pecker, he was bought as a spare to cover some animals on another pasture after we treated the wart. He's actually proved himself and outlasted my higher dollar purebreds. He cost me 1300 dollars. But had he made that sale, he would have easily been several thousand a few years ago And you're actually seeing discounts now for calves that grow too good.. If you've got them too fleshy the buyers are hitting you with a penalty because you raised TOO good of animals. I had some just ok calves this year that weaned early and at just over 600lbs brought 2.85. Around $1740 a piece! Turns out some other guys held their calves since that time, fed well all winter and are now 900lbs and are now getting about 1.80 - just over $1600 for an animal 300lbs heavier. Show me where it pays to get real heavy calves. Could I have eeked out a touch more on slightly heavier calves back at weaning time? Yes, but just barely and not nearly enough to cover high end bulls or pay for creep or anything. [/QUOTE]
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