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what happened to the calving ease?
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<blockquote data-quote="SRBeef" data-source="post: 721706" data-attributes="member: 7509"><p>George, I would trust anything Jerry Huth told me about a bull. And I did and his recommendations have been proven far better than any choice I would have made.</p><p></p><p>However from Farmwriter's original post it sounds like she's trying to decide if the breeder she bought a bull from is a "Liar" or not. Sounds like she bought based on his comment alone rather than checking numbers. </p><p></p><p>I frankly am not good at determining if people that I don't know very well are telling me the truth or not about a subject that I don't know much about. If I don't know much about a subject I try to find someone who does and who I trust and listen to what they tell me to do. Trust is preferred. Most breeders can probably be trusted. </p><p></p><p>However with the degree of question in Farmwriters post it may be a good idea to at least look at the numbers and see if they jive with what the breeder is telling me.</p><p></p><p>If they do not jive, then I would ask the breeder why he feels differently from what the numbers seem to show... Having to pull 63% of your first 8 calves and 100% of the bull calves so far sounds to me like much more than a statistical aberration of low accuracy EPD's. jmho.</p><p></p><p>Jim</p><p></p><p>edit: As with many things related to cattle, having a "calving ease" bull turn out to be quite the opposite is an EXTREMELY expensive mistake, especially in a smaller, one-bull herd. Not only do you run the risk of losing a cow and/or calf but you have basically wasted a year. In addition I would be VERY hesitant to keep any heifers and certainly not bull calves from this bull mating. So you lose out on any herd expansion possibilities too. You have to basically start over again this summer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SRBeef, post: 721706, member: 7509"] George, I would trust anything Jerry Huth told me about a bull. And I did and his recommendations have been proven far better than any choice I would have made. However from Farmwriter's original post it sounds like she's trying to decide if the breeder she bought a bull from is a "Liar" or not. Sounds like she bought based on his comment alone rather than checking numbers. I frankly am not good at determining if people that I don't know very well are telling me the truth or not about a subject that I don't know much about. If I don't know much about a subject I try to find someone who does and who I trust and listen to what they tell me to do. Trust is preferred. Most breeders can probably be trusted. However with the degree of question in Farmwriters post it may be a good idea to at least look at the numbers and see if they jive with what the breeder is telling me. If they do not jive, then I would ask the breeder why he feels differently from what the numbers seem to show... Having to pull 63% of your first 8 calves and 100% of the bull calves so far sounds to me like much more than a statistical aberration of low accuracy EPD's. jmho. Jim edit: As with many things related to cattle, having a "calving ease" bull turn out to be quite the opposite is an EXTREMELY expensive mistake, especially in a smaller, one-bull herd. Not only do you run the risk of losing a cow and/or calf but you have basically wasted a year. In addition I would be VERY hesitant to keep any heifers and certainly not bull calves from this bull mating. So you lose out on any herd expansion possibilities too. You have to basically start over again this summer. [/QUOTE]
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