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<blockquote data-quote="Lucky_P" data-source="post: 1242840" data-attributes="member: 12607"><p>Wow. That's chromed up!</p><p>No telling what's behind that cow... but, to my knowledge, Upgrade is not a spot gene carrier - but I'm not sure he's necessarily been tested for it. Some of the solid black Simmental bulls out there today are known to be 'spot carriers' (GW Lucky Man, etc.).</p><p></p><p>Have a dumpy little black cow here - with probably more white on her underline than the Angus folks would accept. Has some old spotted Simmental genetics back behind her 20 years back. Bred to a solid red Shorthorn bull last year, she dropped a flashy red & white bull ( not as much white as yours, bpwagner), and one of her Angus-sired daughters has delivered two consecutive mostly solid-color calves with significant white spots, both by solid red SH bulls...</p><p>Sometimes you don't know what's sliding along under the radar. </p><p></p><p>Noticed a 5-yr old BWF cow in the herd this weekend... 3/4 Angus, daughter of GAR Yield Grade, I still have her dam and her reg. Angus maternal grandsire here...she's got little scab scurs. Not surprised that she might have horn or scur gene floating along undetermined from the Simmental side, but you don't *usually* expect scurs from an Angus bull - though there were scurred bulls back in the early days of the breed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lucky_P, post: 1242840, member: 12607"] Wow. That's chromed up! No telling what's behind that cow... but, to my knowledge, Upgrade is not a spot gene carrier - but I'm not sure he's necessarily been tested for it. Some of the solid black Simmental bulls out there today are known to be 'spot carriers' (GW Lucky Man, etc.). Have a dumpy little black cow here - with probably more white on her underline than the Angus folks would accept. Has some old spotted Simmental genetics back behind her 20 years back. Bred to a solid red Shorthorn bull last year, she dropped a flashy red & white bull ( not as much white as yours, bpwagner), and one of her Angus-sired daughters has delivered two consecutive mostly solid-color calves with significant white spots, both by solid red SH bulls... Sometimes you don't know what's sliding along under the radar. Noticed a 5-yr old BWF cow in the herd this weekend... 3/4 Angus, daughter of GAR Yield Grade, I still have her dam and her reg. Angus maternal grandsire here...she's got little scab scurs. Not surprised that she might have horn or scur gene floating along undetermined from the Simmental side, but you don't *usually* expect scurs from an Angus bull - though there were scurred bulls back in the early days of the breed. [/QUOTE]
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