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<blockquote data-quote="milkmaid" data-source="post: 986462" data-attributes="member: 852"><p>Not to stray too far off topic- but- the veterinary graduates are looking at an oversupply problem in the near future. The older veterinarians aren't retiring due to the economy, and we've just had some new veterinary schools open (eg Utah) or become AVMA accredited (non-US). I'd say it's more of a lack of available jobs/too many grads for the available jobs. (Since the new grads want to work *for* someone initially, they're limited to working for veterinary clinics that are hiring, rather than starting their own business.) As is quite obvious per this board, there are a lot of places without access to a local veterinarian. However, due to the amount of work y'all do on your own, a veterinarian couldn't be supported locally.</p><p></p><p>Not that it's your problem or necessarily ours or the AVMA's; it simply *is* and we just have to work with the hand we're dealt. I'm just thinking about what *I* need to do in order to become a quality veterinarian after graduation, and what I need to do for my clients or in order to acquire/retain clients. I understand the supply/demand issue Djinwa; the situation veterinarians are in right now is that they're looking for where the demand has gone. We either have to decrease the supply (not going to happen) or increase the demand. Limiting what producers/laymen can do on their own would increase the demand; I don't know as that will happen and I'm sure there'd be a lot of resistance to that. (I'm a client too- my veterinarian's worst client, I suspect lol, as I can do almost everything myself- I do understand the desire to do things yourself. I enjoy doing my own vet work, it saves me money, etc. I understand where you're coming from.) It sounds like most of the demand for veterinarians at the moment, per the board, is for emergencies, health certificates, prescription drugs (eg Nuflor), controlled vaccines/medications (eg sedation, Rabies/Bangs vaccinations), and some of you use veterinarians for information purposes as well. So how do I find an area (in terms of vetmed, not location) where there is demand for a veterinarian?</p><p></p><p>SL- thanks for the thoughts and I appreciate the last comment about slowing down. I think sometimes we try to go *fast* through the information that we assume is so basic you'd be bored if we slowed down. And I think most of you would understand what we're saying if we said it slower, and wish we'd just skip to the important/new information. But I'll keep it in mind.</p><p></p><p>For the rest of you; I'm hearing nutrition mentioned several times. Essential information? I'll be honest- if I had wanted to learn nutrition I would have become a nutritionalist. I wanted to learn medicine, surgery, and pathology - and so I came to veterinary school. I agree completely on SD and I know just enough nutrition to get by, and honestly am pretty comfortable with that. That said, I'm hearing quite a bit in the herd production class that nutrition is something a veterinarian has to know. (The other topic that's recommended is epidemiology/statistics as the veterinarian's role is shifting from individual management to herd management.) Your thoughts?</p><p></p><p>There's been a couple comments on communication skills and business. I agree. WSU is actually (the?) first veterinary school to implement a communication skills course in their curriculum. There has been recognization in the veterinary profession of the fact that many vets do not have good people skills and it hurts their business. </p><p></p><p>Keep the comments coming, thanks again~</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="milkmaid, post: 986462, member: 852"] Not to stray too far off topic- but- the veterinary graduates are looking at an oversupply problem in the near future. The older veterinarians aren't retiring due to the economy, and we've just had some new veterinary schools open (eg Utah) or become AVMA accredited (non-US). I'd say it's more of a lack of available jobs/too many grads for the available jobs. (Since the new grads want to work *for* someone initially, they're limited to working for veterinary clinics that are hiring, rather than starting their own business.) As is quite obvious per this board, there are a lot of places without access to a local veterinarian. However, due to the amount of work y'all do on your own, a veterinarian couldn't be supported locally. Not that it's your problem or necessarily ours or the AVMA's; it simply *is* and we just have to work with the hand we're dealt. I'm just thinking about what *I* need to do in order to become a quality veterinarian after graduation, and what I need to do for my clients or in order to acquire/retain clients. I understand the supply/demand issue Djinwa; the situation veterinarians are in right now is that they're looking for where the demand has gone. We either have to decrease the supply (not going to happen) or increase the demand. Limiting what producers/laymen can do on their own would increase the demand; I don't know as that will happen and I'm sure there'd be a lot of resistance to that. (I'm a client too- my veterinarian's worst client, I suspect lol, as I can do almost everything myself- I do understand the desire to do things yourself. I enjoy doing my own vet work, it saves me money, etc. I understand where you're coming from.) It sounds like most of the demand for veterinarians at the moment, per the board, is for emergencies, health certificates, prescription drugs (eg Nuflor), controlled vaccines/medications (eg sedation, Rabies/Bangs vaccinations), and some of you use veterinarians for information purposes as well. So how do I find an area (in terms of vetmed, not location) where there is demand for a veterinarian? SL- thanks for the thoughts and I appreciate the last comment about slowing down. I think sometimes we try to go *fast* through the information that we assume is so basic you'd be bored if we slowed down. And I think most of you would understand what we're saying if we said it slower, and wish we'd just skip to the important/new information. But I'll keep it in mind. For the rest of you; I'm hearing nutrition mentioned several times. Essential information? I'll be honest- if I had wanted to learn nutrition I would have become a nutritionalist. I wanted to learn medicine, surgery, and pathology - and so I came to veterinary school. I agree completely on SD and I know just enough nutrition to get by, and honestly am pretty comfortable with that. That said, I'm hearing quite a bit in the herd production class that nutrition is something a veterinarian has to know. (The other topic that's recommended is epidemiology/statistics as the veterinarian's role is shifting from individual management to herd management.) Your thoughts? There's been a couple comments on communication skills and business. I agree. WSU is actually (the?) first veterinary school to implement a communication skills course in their curriculum. There has been recognization in the veterinary profession of the fact that many vets do not have good people skills and it hurts their business. Keep the comments coming, thanks again~ [/QUOTE]
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