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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 12498"><p>Vicki, we had a 3 year old bull that apparently had a seizure this afternoon. We took him to our vet immediately afterwards, but I was wondering if you have any experience with this happening in cattle.</p><p></p><p>This bull is going to the sale in the morning, but my curiousity makes me want more feedback.</p><p></p><p>The bull has been in a clean drylot on good quality 3rd crop alfalfa/grass hay for about a month, with a bloat block. No exposure to any chemicals or toxins that we know of before that. He was last wormed about 6 months ago. We are located in Utah. He is in with two other 18 month old bulls that are healthy and normal acting.</p><p></p><p>He's been eating and drinking normally, although yesterday I thought he had begun to lose a bit of weight. He has a magnet in him. No other health history except one instance of bloat last year, and that was my fault.</p><p></p><p>Today he seemed to have tonic clonic movement, went down, got up, then down and out for a few seconds. A bit dazed when he got up again, but steady on his feet. I got home about 15 minutes after the seizure (my husband witnessed it) and I could still see mild twitching of the muscles, especially over his front and back legs, although he was standing and alert. Immediately after the seizure, he did almost compulsively drink about 35-40 gallons of water. He had not been out of water at any time, so was not thirsty from lack of water.</p><p></p><p>We loaded him up and took him to the vet. He was hyperexcitable, which is not normal for him. No muscle twitching or seizure activity to be observed by the vet, of course. Two vets put their heads together, decided injectable B vitamins couldn't hurt, decided against dexamethasone, and gently suggested we consider taking him to the sale or slaughtering him. They said seizure activity is rare in cattle, but something could be going on in his brain, or he could have liver or kidney failure. I am assuming liver or kidney failure would cause an electrolyte imbalance??</p><p></p><p>The vet said a few of the other possible causes of seizure would have caused him to go down and not get back up again. He said since this bull got back up, it might be an isolated instance, but if he has organ failure it will probably happen again.</p><p></p><p>No blood was drawn or other tests done. We just all kind of decided that if he's still alive in the morning and with cattle prices as high as they are, he'll go to the sale.</p><p></p><p>I would appreciate any ideas or feedback you might have for us.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 12498"] Vicki, we had a 3 year old bull that apparently had a seizure this afternoon. We took him to our vet immediately afterwards, but I was wondering if you have any experience with this happening in cattle. This bull is going to the sale in the morning, but my curiousity makes me want more feedback. The bull has been in a clean drylot on good quality 3rd crop alfalfa/grass hay for about a month, with a bloat block. No exposure to any chemicals or toxins that we know of before that. He was last wormed about 6 months ago. We are located in Utah. He is in with two other 18 month old bulls that are healthy and normal acting. He's been eating and drinking normally, although yesterday I thought he had begun to lose a bit of weight. He has a magnet in him. No other health history except one instance of bloat last year, and that was my fault. Today he seemed to have tonic clonic movement, went down, got up, then down and out for a few seconds. A bit dazed when he got up again, but steady on his feet. I got home about 15 minutes after the seizure (my husband witnessed it) and I could still see mild twitching of the muscles, especially over his front and back legs, although he was standing and alert. Immediately after the seizure, he did almost compulsively drink about 35-40 gallons of water. He had not been out of water at any time, so was not thirsty from lack of water. We loaded him up and took him to the vet. He was hyperexcitable, which is not normal for him. No muscle twitching or seizure activity to be observed by the vet, of course. Two vets put their heads together, decided injectable B vitamins couldn't hurt, decided against dexamethasone, and gently suggested we consider taking him to the sale or slaughtering him. They said seizure activity is rare in cattle, but something could be going on in his brain, or he could have liver or kidney failure. I am assuming liver or kidney failure would cause an electrolyte imbalance?? The vet said a few of the other possible causes of seizure would have caused him to go down and not get back up again. He said since this bull got back up, it might be an isolated instance, but if he has organ failure it will probably happen again. No blood was drawn or other tests done. We just all kind of decided that if he's still alive in the morning and with cattle prices as high as they are, he'll go to the sale. I would appreciate any ideas or feedback you might have for us. [/QUOTE]
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